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原帖由 Ultraman 於 2009-1-14 00:36 發表
Seems like same sex relationship is the top thing they against/hate. Did God mention it in the bible like that? Don't God rank all types of sin the same? In His eyes, aren't greedy, selfish, stealing, ...


There is only one sin for all sins in Bible - "the sin of not accepting God".

There are only two ends for all ends - "the eternal fire in hell" and "the eternal glory in heaven".

This is my understand of what the Bible says. Please correct me if I am wrong.

[ 本帖最後由 rockypath 於 2009-1-14 16:55 編輯 ]

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原帖由 一代烈士 於 2009-1-15 01:21 發表
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ptHUWZILL8


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHA
黃毓民大插基督徒
"去死啦, 基督徒"


Do you know 黃毓民 is 基督徒 as well?
http://www.gospelherald.com/temp ... ode=min&id=8262
http://www.gospelherald.ca/news/min_1409.htm

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原帖由 一代烈士 於 2009-1-15 04:22 發表


係人都知啦, 佢仲係一個唔受其他基督徒歡迎既基督徒tim
人地基督徒話佢唔可以做基督徒啵
幾好笑, 呢D咪就係狗咬狗lor


First, Chritians are ordinary people as well. They are called "Christians" just because of what they believe in. Second, whether someone is truely a Christian or not is not up to him/her to claim or what other people say about him/her. Only he/she knows and his/her God knows.  

Making fun of them does not show you are smarter, more knowledgeble, or more educated.

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原帖由 一代烈士 於 2009-1-15 04:45 發表
咁點解基既就唔係人呀, 點解其他教就係唔好呀. 人地係點扑, 點信, 又關神人咩Q事呀.
神經人可以用自己個套套係其他人身上, 點解我唔可以用我個套套係你地身上呀. 歧視我呀?

你地有權去歧視人, 我有權去恥笑你地. ...


First, from where you learn that Christians regard gays as not human? What the Bible reject is the act of it but not the person. The Bible says God loves every single person and accepts everyone returning to Him. Everyone is sinner and no one is perfect. Therefore, He will forgive everyone who is willing to return to Him.  (if my interpretation is wrong, everyone is welcome to correct me.)

Second, it is very natural that people reject other religions which are not what they believe in. It is same among people having different religious beliefs and not just Christians alone. Why should you be surprised? You seem to target Christians only.

Attacking Christian with nonsense statements just make you appear being naive in front of people.

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原帖由 一代烈士 於 2009-1-15 05:47 發表
蘇牧師已經完全指出同要求同性伴侶唔應該受家庭暴力條例保護. 變相係無人道之言, 換句話基既就唔應該受法律保護. 咁膠既要求都有. 咁如果係唔係人民都有權要求神經人唔可以受法律保護, 因為神經人受擺佈所指既耶人保 ...


One of my interests is studying different religions. I did not try to defend Christianity. What I pointed out is what the Bible says from a position of the third person. (I don't have a deep knowledge about Bible and always ask for other people to correct me).

However, I don't think I should spend time to discuss the topic with people like you (一袋狗屎) who are closed minded, lack of knowledge and analytical capability.

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原帖由 chunsh 於 2009-1-15 11:52 發表


tell me, in the video, who is attacking who?
who treat other group of people lower than who?
this is what I call "religious rape"

u just....helpless


I do not try to defend the pastor here.  

This is not the first time that crazy teachings happened in some Churchese. Remember the 双氧水事件 ten years ago? However, can we make a conclusion that is the teaching of the Bible? If we do, we are just blind minded because we do not have the ability to find out the truth ourselves. We make conclusion just becase we heard someone else said so and so.

[ 本帖最後由 rockypath 於 2009-1-15 12:23 編輯 ]

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原帖由 MSN04 於 2009-1-15 11:15 發表


Ordinary? 你好謙囉. 唔係一班自命清高既人咩?  咪玩啦, 你死q左會去天堂, 我呢d平民會去地獄喎.

照你咁講, 咁我就唔明喇, 個教裡面無規矩, 無 standard 架?
最緊要就係信, 做乜都唔關個教既事 (好事就關??)  似 ...


Every religion has its own teaching and standard. You can criticize Christianity more than other religions maybe it is because Christianity has more exposure than the others in your life experiences.

The concept of “hell” and “heaven” also exist in other religions. Will you attach them as well?

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原帖由 shutterbug 於 2009-1-15 11:48 發表

rockypath, don't waste your time explaining to someone who is just ignoring what you said and keep yelling at and falsely accusing people.


I think I should save some air now. I didn't get involved in previous discussions. But some people keep attacking and showing that they seem to know much about Christianity while they are actually knowing nothing about it make me feel I should say something. However, I think I would let them enjoy entertaining themselves.

[ 本帖最後由 rockypath 於 2009-1-15 12:51 編輯 ]

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原帖由 daimo 於 2009-1-15 13:12 發表
SB, rockypath,

You are plain wrong.

They have been putting up disclaimer all over the place (see the first few pages) that they are not attacking/against... Christianity/Bible .... not ALL Christian ...


Can I put up a disclaimer and then insult someone?

They have been making generalization and just tried to defend themselves that they are not against "ALL" Christians when they had difficulties to backup their points.

But anyways, I just let them entertain themselves.

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原帖由 Ultraman 於 2009-1-15 17:11 發表
- I admit that there ARE nice Christians around, and I have average and close friends who are Christians. That means, I DON'T hate or attack or against ALL Christians.

- All human are imperfect. That ...


Good to see that you begin to argue objectively and analytical.

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