rockypath

People immigrate to a foreign country for many reasons. Should they be called a “traitor” for moving to another country? I don’t think so. Should people be judged whether they are a patriot based on whether they reside within the boundary of the land of their own country? If that is the standard, how are we going to call the overseas Chinese who contributed to 辛亥革命和抗日戰爭 but never set their feet on the land of mainland China?

Whether a person is a true patriot should be measured by their hearts and souls but not be judged on where they reside.

rockypath

「Whether a person is a true patriot should be measured by their hearts and souls 」

對！所以逢中必批未必就是不愛國同時逢中必好也未必就是真愛國。
老友四號 發表於 2011-9-24 17:45

對！逢中必好未必就是真愛國，但逢中必批的一定不是真愛國。

rockypath

假如你見到你的小朋友非常"un皮"百厭，我諗你都唔會有讚無彈掛。。。唔通你話個小朋友曳曳都唔係愛佢？ ...
fibbi 發表於 2011-9-25 10:09

有讚無彈一定不是好父母。同樣，凡事必彈一定也不是好父母。 你是否同意我的說法？

rockypath

回復  rockypath

Don't you think that's overwhelming?

I believe everything in between there should ...
lo_pak 發表於 2011-9-25 12:07

I do not see there is any conflict between what I said and your position. Maybe you should read what I said again.

What should we base on to evaluate and comment the policies of Chinese government? Should we base on the well being and future of ordinary Chinese citizens or our own political stand and preferences?

Will you call a political stand of 逢中必批（反）a balanced view and based on the well being of ordinary Chinese citizens? Will you call those people the true patriots? I certainly won’t.

They are just a group of political hypocrites!

rockypath

回復 18# lo_pak

Sorry, I am not talking about benefits nor ethnics. I feel like we are talking about two different issues. The issue I am talking about is - will a 逢中必反 person be a true patriot.

To me, a true patriot is measured by his/her heart and soul. He or she will put the benefits and well being (including ethnics) of ordinary citizens and country ahead of himself or herself. Some people focus more on economic benefits and some others focus on ethnics. That does not make a big difference in my view since they put the people and country ahead of themselves.

I certainly will not call people who 逢中必反 regardless of whether the policy is a good one or not a true patriot. They put their own political stand and preference ahead of the people and country.

Did I make myself clear this time?

rockypath

回復  rockypath

What is your understanding of chinese culture?
lo_pak 發表於 2011-9-25 13:32

How will your question relate to what I have been talking - will a 逢中必反 person be a true patriot?

rockypath

回復  rockypath

Are you talking about a "blind" lover? You should have answered your question by t ...
lo_pak 發表於 2011-9-25 13:37

What are you talking about? Can you clarify what you mean in a simple and direct form?

I believe I had made my position very clear. For the benefit of doubt, I will repeat my statement again.

My statement is – a person who are 逢中必反 will not be a true patriot.

為什麼？

一個人不論青紅皂白一於否定中國政府的政策儘管這項政策從經濟或道德角度上是一個正確的做法。這種將個人政治取向和喜惡置於百姓和國家的福祉之上的人不可能是一個真正的愛國者。

我說的這個道理不管當權者是共產黨、國民黨、滿清皇帝或是將來的中國自由民主黨都是適用的。

Have I made myself clear?

P.S.  I am taking about 逢中必反 but not 逢中必好 (I already said those are not necessarily a true patriot either).

rockypath

好簡單，一個政府的反對黨是用來制衡政府，監督政府行為是其職責
一言堂的共慘黨，你讚到上天，擦鞋擦上天 ...
ricrick 發表於 2011-9-25 15:46

一個為了反對而反對的反對黨一定不會是個稱職的反對黨。

rockypath

反對，當然有理據，聽不入耳，是各下的問題
ricrick 發表於 2011-9-25 15:57

反對當然會有理由。只不過要看你的理由是為國家還是為自己政黨，為正義還是為利益，為百姓還是為自己，為公義還是為私欲。

rockypath

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Lik 發表於 2011-9-25 20:33

如果你想撩事鬥非，先稱下你有幾斤兩。 等你學會說人話而不是狗吠的時候再來挑戰我。

真金不怕火煉。有道理就以理服人而不是用粗言穢語攻擊他人。 這樣做只會令你自己低人一等淪落被人恥笑。