rockypath

好奇怪點解班走狗唔敢走來響呢個 post 度宣揚佢地嘅歪理同為主子護短。

唔係自己身有屎，點解要做埋咁多小動作？明明係有豆腐渣，明明自己係有錯，點解都仲係要極力唔認，而反為仲要做咁多野去掩飾？

點解唔可以文 ...
Lik 發表於 2009-6-25 09:39

Lik,

Your attitude does not make you a true 社會民主衛士. When I make comments, I tried to be rational and objective. It is not a matter of defending CCP.

First, other than the news report, I do not have much information about this subject, especially from other sources (can you share if you have?) telling us how the Chinese government responses to this. Are they really doing nothing or actually doing something about this?

Second, I also believe the Chinese government has not done enough or should be 問責 on this incident.

Our objective criticism and 問責 will help China grows politically and democratically. Blind attacks will serve the opposite.

No matter what and regardless which party is in power, I always wish and support China to continuingly become stronger economically, politically and democratically. I am lucky enough to be in Canada, and I wish mainland Chinese have a better life as well.

P.S. – the source for MingPao is from another media (半月談)under 新華社. So you still deny China is growing politically and democratically?

rockypath

On the other hand, human rights conditions never improved in the last 20 years, and in fact, have only gotten worse on numerous fronts.
Lik 發表於 2009-6-25 15:52

Can you make a strong argument with supporting evidences for this statement that you made?

It is a true test to see whether you really know about China and sincerely care for mainland Chinese people. Or you just at here 亂吠 and try to fulfill your personal ego and desire.

rockypath

阿哥仔，你餐餐都係咁㗎喎？叫我 provide strong argument with supporting evidence 來支持我所講話中國人權有退無進？你自己對眼盲㗎？定係你腦閉塞呀？淨係天安門母親廿年來都唔俾公開拜祭自己死去嘅子女就經已 ...
Lik 發表於 2009-6-26 00:51

I am asking you to make a comparison between the human right status in mainland China 20 years ago and today.  It is a simple question. You can simply make a table and list out the facts.

Yelling loudly does not make you stronger. It, in fact, just shows you have no power.

You don't even know what the human right status in mainland China was 20 years ago. So how would you know what the difference is today?

Give you one more chance. If you want to make a point, just do it in a way that can show you are mature instead of being naive.

rockypath

小弟覺得, 國內既人大部分係唔會聯想到人權同豆腐渣工程冇乜野關連. 佢地會諗, "人權同d 危樓有關咩?
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2009-6-26 01:53

You won't even know there is 豆腐渣工程 if it was in 80's and earlier. You would only see or hear how brave the PLA was and how they risk their lives to save people and how the government officers working days and nights without any sleep. It was the situation in China.

It was even worse beyond imagination if you go further to 60's and 70's.

If we want to understand today, then we have to know the past.

rockypath

It is like I rob off all your money 60 years ago, and suddenly I feel ashame, and return 5-10 dollars to you;be grateful!  who knows, I may return all your money in 100 years. If you were lucky to ...
somewhereintime 發表於 2009-6-26 05:44

I feel sorry for you that you are such ignorant (讀多D書啦), naive and don’t have the capability for logical thinking.

First, do you understand history cannot be rolled back? In China, replacing a political regime always involved violence, wars and massive lost of lives. So what is your point? Since CCP had created so much disaster in the past, then the people should replace it? How will China become if you try to overthrow CCP? What kind of life people will be in? How would you know another political regime will be better than CCP?

Second, do you understand that a country can only be built on the foundation it has? China does not have the same foundation of US’s or other western countries. For example, if you have a company and people expect you to become like IBM, Siemens, McDonald’s in 30 years, how would you response to this kind of expectation?

Third, it is true that CCP had created many disasters to its people in the past, so should we today focus on the past or the future? Don’t you want China to become stronger, Chinese people have a better life? Just because CCP had done so many things wrong in the past and you will ignore its achievements?

rockypath

我都費鬼事去回覆啲廢柴妖孽同佢地啲扭曲事實... 幾多新樓通通都係豆腐渣呀？
Lik 發表於 2009-6-26 09:35

It is true and I saw them with my own eyes in China. However, do you understand that you can know about this is and saw it on Chinese news papaer already a progress and improvement compare to the past?

It is the fact even though you may not like to admit it.

rockypath

It is like I rob off all your money 60 years ago, and suddenly I feel ashame, and return 5-10 dollars to you;be grateful!  who knows, I may return all your money in 100 years. If you were lucky to ...
somewhereintime 發表於 2009-6-26 05:44

How much did CCP rob you?

We lost the whole family business which my grandfather and his brother built up. At the time, my family had already established businesses in a few major cities.

rockypath

when your score only went from a 1/100 to 5/100, the 500% improvement really means nothing at all.  5/100 is still a miserable and unacceptable failure.
Lik 發表於 2009-6-26 13:45

I had given you so many examples and explanations but you just ignored them. Other than yelling out loud, I don’t see you have a logical mind and proper knowledge.

1% improvement is still an improvement, and 100% improvement is added up by those 1% small progresses.

Do you still remember that it took 50 years for Canadian women to have the full rights for general election since they won the first provincial voting right (and it just happened not long ago - 1960)?

You just made yourself look foolish and immature.

rockypath

Just don't laugh yet,  would you want to pay $500,000 RMB to buy a suit and live there???
somewhereintime 發表於 2009-6-27 14:47

I know you definitely won't, and I believe you have forgotten you are a Chinese as well.