rockypath

63# rockypath

In 1918, Canadian women obtained the right to run for a seat in the House of Commons. 50 years after the male.  Certain thing in life is worth to fight for.
somewhereintime 發表於 2009-6-7 19:01

I would make the question to be more specific -- "when was the time Canadian woman won the full rights for general election".

rockypath

I would make the question to be more specific -- "when was the time Canadian woman won the full rights for general election".
rockypath 發表於 2009-6-7 19:06

Well, I think I have to answer the question myself.

Canadian women in Alberta, Manitoba and Saskatchewan got the vote in 1916. But, Canadian women did not get the full rights for general election until 1960. It took almost 50 year since the first province grant the voting right to woman!!! Not to mention how long for Canadian women to fight for even the first provincial voting right (more than 100 years?).

So many people have been bombarding how evil Chinese CCP and its government are, but themselves know very little about the development history of Democracy and human right!!! Democracy just won’t happen overnight and it is a progress of continuing development and improvement.

It should be my turn to be speechless.

rockypath

Chobit,

I think I have written many times, both in this thread and in others, of what the CCP government could have done instead of firing live ammunition and rolling out tanks, so I am not going to  ...
Lik 發表於 2009-6-8 20:20

It was not us to ignore what you said, but it was you to ignore the facts we put in front of you.

When to resolve a social emergency or national crisis, there is no “ZERO SOCIAL COST” solution, but only “MINIMUM SOCIAL COST” solution.

The flood of Yangzte River and Yellow River has been an unsolvable problem in the thousands years of Chinese history. When the river was in the dangerous stage of breaking the dyke at any moment, do you still believe you would have the time to discuss about putting the dyke higher and making it stronger? In order to protect the more populated regions, some less populated areas had to be designated as “flood zone” to release the water. That means the dyke of that areas would be purposely blow down and the areas were deliberately flooded. Land would be filled, houses would be washed away, and lives could possibly lose as well.

How would you do differently in a situation like this, and would you believe you can do it in a way that would achieve “ZERO SOCIAL COST”?

Do you really believe you could resolve the 6.4 crisis (a possible collapse of a nation) just by communicating with students under the situations we put in front of you?

rockypath

Talking about the "possible collapse of a nation"
did any of the young and intelligent LYK know that Mao
advocated  "The Hunan Republic" and breakaway from Republic Of China
in early 20?
Have anyone ...
somewhereintime 發表於 2009-6-9 05:40

I would suggest you to read up more but not just try to fulfill you hatred to CCP.

1)        Do you know China is the only historical great nation (empire) that was able to recover from its collapse and be reunited again (including its land) in the world history? None of other empires in the world was able to do the same. Instead, they disappear because none of them was able to recover after they were broken down to smaller states. Please look up some about the world history.

2)        When ever there was a political regime change in China history, there will be civil wars and massive lost of life. Do you know that?

3)        I don’t care whether it is CCP in power, I care about the life of Chinese people. Why would you suggest to overthrow CCP when China is prospering and Chinese people is having a better life? You are truely cold-hearted.

rockypath

I believe most of people on LYK  know that China used to be the greatest nation in the world economically, technologically and politically.

Why the western world was able to not just catch up China but surpass China? It is because of its advance in sciences and technologies which drive the improvement of 社會生産力. The consequence of that is the change of social structure and power balance, and that drives political changes and reforms, and as well as the born of Democracy we are talking today. (of course, China's internal problems also had contributed to its fall behind the western world.)

It is just ignorant for people talk about Democracy and do not know how Democracy was born.

rockypath

Funny how idiots pretend they know stuff when they don't~
Lik 發表於 2009-6-9 23:15

First, I didn’t say China’s downfall is due to science and technologies. Please check what I said again.

Second, of course political changes and economic changes would be intertwined and influent each other. If you can do a better job of summarizing such a complex topic in a few sentences, please show us.  

Third, do you mind to tell us how the western political systems today was born and developed, and as well as the Democracy?

rockypath

This is a complicated topic again, and I don’t know where to start.

1)        The advance of 社會生産力relies on advance in technologies which drives the development of the society.
2)        The military strength also relies on the advance in technologies which a country relies on to obtain new natural resources (the backbone of the economy) and protect the resources it already got. (what would you think about the reasons why the historical empires had been so hungry to expand their lands and colonies?)

Back to aerospace program again, I have hard time to understand why people believe it is a waste of money.

1)        The practical application – communication, environment and military. If China and US were at war, US’s missile can easily target our bedroom, why? It has GPS system. Can China use US’s GPS system?
2)        While we are still trying to find new iron mine on earth, US already builds up its Auto Plans on moon.
3)        While thousands of our people lost their lives because of swine flue, US already mass production its flue shots in its space lab.
4)        Do I need to continue the list???

rockypath

btw, 社會生産力 is not GDP. I believe someone had mistaken it. If you do not know what it is, find out yourself.

And to clarify, 社會生産力 drives the development of a society, not technology. But technology will improve 社會生産力.

rockypath

I lost count  on how many time he call me Racist, Traitor and names alike
somewhereintime 發表於 2009-6-13 18:36

Do you remember under what situations you were called as such?