Ultraman

Why eating cat and dog are none of your business while eating human is? Provided that only people agree others to eat them, if you don't agree other people won't come eat you.

If to say eating cat and dog make no difference from eating cow and pig, why there is a difference to eat dolphin and whale? Provided that the slaughtering progress is quick and painless.

If to say we only shouldn't eat endangered species (no matter how the slaughtering progress is), then why shouldn't we eat human for this could be the most over populated species in the world?

I don't get it... !

Ultraman

I said I don't get it because all the answers are just ridiculous!
Why there is an excuse to eat cat and dog, because they may get a chance to feel no mercy on human and hurt us? Then why human eat pig and rabbit, I never see they do anything harming us?!
Why need to compare human to other animals? Why if other animals may/will hurt or eat us and so we can have the right to eat them first? Animals don't have a human brain to think of all these, but why human want to think like animals? If there is no side effect, human can eat human? Don't talk about law, eating cat and dog is illegal in many countries but still legal in some countries. So that means if eating human becomes legal in one country, people would accept that and more and more countries would set it legal?
Human just being selfish, they have different excuse to do things. That's all!

Ultraman

"無端端要人地成個民族就你班外國人﹐ 跟本就講唔通"
Well, then why 藏獨 issue a matter of other countries, even affecting Olympic?

Ultraman

原帖由 Traum 於 2008-4-15 12:12 發表

lol~ But this is clearly immoral in any culture la. Please use a more appropriate example, my friend.

Now, if it were 紫荷車 (human placenta), that would be a different matter. In Chinese medic ...

You mean you don't treat 紫荷車 related to human species so eating it is OK? Whao......

Ultraman

原帖由 chunsh 於 2008-4-15 13:12 發表


why suprised?
as long as it is disease free, why not?
come on~~
it is listed in ancient Chinese medicine dictionary

I meant, someone said this is a moral issue more than health ar mah, that's why human shouldn't eat human. But isn't 紫荷車 kinda human thingy? Why someone thinks eating human infant is a problem but 紫荷車 not? I don't understand lor.

Ultraman

原帖由 mcjohnjohn 於 2008-4-15 17:39 發表


乜你唔知道中藥舖既"紫荷車"十個有九個都唔係人類既胎盤咩?.........
唔信你去問下中醫喇.

Oh come on! I'm not going to argue whether how genuine the 紫荷車 will be if you get from Chinese drug stores, just like you think you go to a restaurant for dog meat but actually they give you beef or lamb! That's not my question. What I try to say is, how to compare eating an actual infant, human 紫荷車, and human tissues (for example human skin)? If eating an actual infant is immoral (not concerning health issues), how about human tissues? Only because an infant has real life but human tissue doesn't so eating human tissue is not immoral?

Ultraman

原帖由 mcjohnjohn 於 2008-4-15 22:24 發表

what kind of human tissue would you like to eat?....................
Eating human tissue? I may eat my 倒刺 on my fingers...

Someone said 紫荷車 is just a dead human tissue ar mah, and feeling good to eat it, not me ar.

Ultraman

原帖由 chunsh 於 2008-4-16 00:18 發表


I still don't get whats wrong with it and whats wrong with u!!!
u can't distinguish eating a baby and eating a 紫荷車???
and are u talking about a LIVING baby? if so, sorry, you are just dumb and co ...

Cool down, chunsh,
First, it's not me to initiate that "紫荷車 is only dead human tissue", right?
Second, someone asked me if I like to eat any "human tissue", and I answered that it's not me interested in eating any of it, am I wrong?
What made you getting mad at?

Let me elaborate a little more, some of us think eating animals including cats and dogs is not cruel and immoral, but only the way that slaughtering them will. While I think it's not only the slaughtering way that judged to be cruel or not, but the whole concept of eating certain kinds of animals is. For example, why eating dolphin is cruel if the slaughtering way is fast and painless? Then extend to eating human as an example, no matter in which way you slaughter a person and eat him/her, it's still cruel, right? Then comes to 紫荷車, which previously a human baby was living in there and actually 紫荷車 is part of human body, that's why I think eating it is still count as a cruel act.

People are inborn selfish, especially Chinese (... I think). Chinese people eat almost all kinds of animals such as lion, tiger, monkey (monkey brain), cat, dog, and many other kinds of wild animals and believe that it's somewhat good to health and have certain different 補身 effect. Yeah yeah... what an excuse! I really don't see how 補身 it is for eating cat and dog, which can't find any other substitution.

If I treat my dog as my family member and so I won't eat him/her, and extend that I won't eat other dogs.
If I treat my rock cod in my fish tank my family member and so I won't eat him/her, and extend that I won't eat other rock cods.
If you treat 紫荷車 nothing related to a human but just dead tissue, you may feel OK to eat it.
But how if the 紫荷車 comes from your own family member, would you still feel OK to eat it? Or you just eat other people's 紫荷車?
But after all, it's surely a personal choice.

Of course I won't and actually I can't force other people to eat or not to eat cat and dog. It's their personal choice. However, deep in my heart I will surely hate people who eat cat and dog, and of course that's only my personal choice for hating those people, which is not a business to others.
Hope I have made myself clear enough this time.

Ultraman

原帖由 Traum 於 2008-4-16 00:28 發表
鹹蛋超人兄，

我諗你要檢查下你既視力或者理解能力喇。紫荷車係中藥，明文規定有藥用療效，我又幾時有講過佢好食呢？ 當然，如果個人病，而紫荷車又係隻合適既藥，咁食左就梗係會 feel good 啦～

-力 ...

Did you misunderstand anything? I never say you said 紫荷車 "taste" good, my meaning of that "good" actually meant 藥用療效.

But in fact, many Chinese believe every "edible" thing has different 藥用 or 補身療效 ga la! Even bear paw and monkey brain. Maybe one day they believe that eating their parents and off-springs is good to their own health too, who knows? Then what is the moral standard for eating what kind of thing is immoral and cruel but eating what is not?

Ultraman

原帖由 chunsh 於 2008-4-16 01:18 發表


so u think killing a sheep or a pig is not cruel?
well anyways, its your choice
in my point of view, I would say either be mercy to ALL animals and no meats, or otherwise, be a T-REX that eat any me ...

You didn't get my point.
I mean if you treat an animal your friend/family member, eating it is cruel.
So, if you treat your pig/sheep as your friend/family member, eating it is cruel.
By the majority, I guess most people treat cat and dog as their close friend and family member, so if they seeing other people eating those animals will feel sad and it's cruel to them.
On the other hand, most people don't treat pig and sheep and cow their friends/family member, so people eating them don't feel that sad and it's not cruel to them.

The key point is how people treat the animal, not love some kinds of animal but not the other. Got it?