peter236

同 short track speed skating 同花式流冰嘅選手來比，curling 呢班實在太唔掂。人地 speed skating 同花式流冰果啲選手就真係睇得出佢有幾熱愛個運動（特別係 speed skating 果班靚妹）。有熱誠先至能夠感動到觀眾 ...
Lik 發表於 2010-2-25 14:13

I just wonder how we can be so sure they have insufficient passion for the game. Curling is just like a chess game and most of these curlers from other countries keep their cool so that you can't read their emotions from their faces.
Of course, these Chinese short track speed skaters were celebrating wildly after they actually won their medals, but the curlers have not even finished their competition yet.
But anyway, these Chinese curlers have achieved more for their country than you ever will.

It looks like the Canadian coach for the Chinese team is just jealous of the rapid improvement of the Chinese  It just took a couple of Chinese girls from Harbin, a few years to master and do well at a game which the Canadians regard as a tradition. What will happen if just a few more Chinese play curling?

peter236

Pete, I think you totally misunderstood.  The article is not talking about their achievement or how fast they learn curling.  It's about the passion about the sports.  No matter how fast they improve  ...
myversa 發表於 2010-2-25 16:55

I think you need to read again what I wrote. I just asked how does Lik know that they have insufficient passion for the game from the spectator's perspective? According to Lik, he claimed the speed skaters and figure skaters have a lot more passion than the curlers. Maybe, Like knows them personally?
There is a chance that the Canadian coach of the Chinese is jealous of the Chinese, that is why he made up some unfounded comments. This is very unprofessional conduct for any high level coach during the Olympic games. Any comments can be left for after the games.

peter236

He knows that from the news I posted.  It could be wrong and it could be right; of course we can only tell by the news media.  You did post some news from China and were they all true?  Who knows ri ...
myversa 發表於 2010-2-25 20:12

I knew the anti-China haters are itching to bash the Chinese at every opportunity.

Lik said "同 short track speed skating 同花式流冰嘅選手來比，curling 呢班實在太唔掂".
How does he know the speed skaters and figure skaters have "more passion"? The article that you posted just talked about the curlers.

Besides, I said before, the speed skaters actually won something, therefore they were celebrating wildly. But curlers have not even conclude their competition. What type of emotion do you expect from the curlers.
I didn't post a lot of Chinese news, LOL. I mostly post Chinese-related pictures because a picture is worth more than a thousand words.

peter236

她們只覺得比賽是工作，比賽完等於放工，根本不熱愛這種運動；我不明白她們怎麼想。

i do believe it.  how long is the curling history in china?  is it popular?  阿爺 wants to win more metals, so choose so ...
tofu 發表於 2010-2-25 22:23

Well, your Canadian 阿爺 here, also want to "own the podium". Therefore, nearly $200 million was invested into the athletes. But now they concede that they cannot beat the US to "own the podium".

peter236

They won the bronze medal. They don't need any excuse or to care about what the detractors say about them. They have achieved more for their country than these bashers ever will.
If the bashers really care about sports, why don't they pick up any sport themselves?

peter236

Yes, the athletes do NOT have to care about what that LYK said here.  You're the one who care what we said here whenever the word "China" appears.  LOL.

Maybe you personally know everyone high up in  ...
B2L2 發表於 2010-2-26 13:14

wahahahaha, based on what do you make the conclusion that they don't have passion? You don't even know them, you don't even know curling?
I don't know what the Chinese government thinks. But from my spectators perspective, they have done a good job.

They are so passionate and emotional.

peter236

So you and I both don't know them, and you and I both don't know much about curling.  We are even. (if not, tell us how much you know about curling)  You don't have to side track your line so far to p ...
B2L2 發表於 2010-2-26 14:22

Those comments made by the coach a few days ago were controversial according to the media. But you are taking those comments as the whole truth.

okay now, why don't you try to read the coaches comment after they won the bronze medal?
The coach said he is satisfied with the performance of the team and that they did their best.

They are so emotional about the win.

peter236

I don't see how controversial in what the coach said.  The major complain from the coach is the team instable performance and their lack of passion (said by the coach).  

Their game against Canada is ...
B2L2 發表於 2010-2-26 23:54

It is the western media that said those comments were controversial.

From their reaction after they won the bronze medal, they were so passionate about the game. who cares what you think?
The coach said he is satisfied with the team and his comments were unfounded.

The Chinese play was very stable. They lost to Sweden in the semi, but Canada also lost to the Swedes in the final. Are the Canadians not stable?  The Sweden went on to win the gold. This is the Swedes year.
China was the third place team during the round-robin. If they are not stable, how about all the lower ranking teams?

peter236

Haha..  discussion with Peter is always lengthy because you never read carefully.  LOL.

Please read what I wrote with your glasses: "He made the complain after the Rassian game because the team's per ...
B2L2 發表於 2010-2-27 18:13

hahaha, of course I can quote you the news where the western media though those comments created a controversy.

Just look at how they reacted after they won the bronze medal. This proves clearly that they are passionate about the game.

It is the Canadian team that was unstable. They are the first rank team in the world, but they lost to China, and then lost to the Swedes for the gold. Where is their passion?

http://www.ctvolympics.ca/curling/news/newsid=52904.html#china+cruises+victory+bronze+medal+game

China has its first Olympic medal in curling.

Defending world champion Wang Bingyu stole four in the eighth and final end to register a 12-6 win over Mirjam Ott of Switzerland in Friday's women's bronze medal game.

China opened with three in the first end and held the lead for most of the game. They stretched their lead to 5-1 with a deuce in the third frame and China had all the momentum.

But Switzerland answered back with three of their own in the next end to close the gap to 5-4.

Switzerland eventually fought back to tie the game at 6-6 in the sixth end but a deuce in the following frame put the Chinese back in front.

In the eighth end, Ott missed a take-out with her first shot, leaving a difficult draw against four on her last shot. When that draw came up light, the Chinese stole four and the Swiss decided to shake hands.

China's Canadian coach Dan Rafael, who sparked some controversy earlier in the tournament with derogatory comments about his own team, was happy with the rink's efforts on Friday.

"I just waited all week for them to show up and they did today. They did everything we told them to do and more," said Dan Rafael. "That's why I'm emotional. It's been two-and-a-half years, what can I say?"

It is the first time in three Olympic appearances that Ott has not earned a medal, having won silver medals in both Salt Lake City and Turin.

"We really had to fight back. We made a big mistake in the first and allowed three against us," said Ott. "China played well from the start. They had a few misses in between but they fought back.

It's hard. Every athlete wants to win a medal and at this moment, we're disappointed."

Later, Canada's Cheryl Bernard takes on defending Olympic champion Anette Norberg in the gold medal final. You can watch the game live on CTV and CTVOlympics.ca at 6pm et/3pm pt.

peter236

People always can get emotional after their win but you can always see how they would react when they lost.  Did Canadian laugh after their loss?  We do not have to believe the media but you can alway ...
myversa 發表於 2010-2-28 09:02

Just wondering, if the team is not Chinese, would you bash them again and again for no reason like this? There are always bashers like you who are itching to bash the Chinese whenever possible.
If they didn't take it seriously, how could they win? It is not easy to get any medals.