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本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-7-24 02:30 編輯
I don't think we need to build this fast. I believe China only need two major connection routs for ...
rockypath 發表於 2011-7-23 11:21


This route is not even part of the highspeed railway. This section was opened in 2009, so the system should be mature. The tracks are upgraded conventional railway. This incident involved the D series trains. Highspeed railway are the G series trains. Looks like some ATS problems?

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本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-7-24 02:33 編輯
回復  rockypath

For now - yes, I see the demand, for future - there should be more routes as Peter ...
lo_pak 發表於 2011-7-23 11:25


Like you said, there is a need for highspeed railway, so it is not built for show.

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本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-7-24 03:56 編輯
My concern is not whether this accident is a high speed railway or not.

Construction and hardwar ...
rockypath 發表於 2011-7-24 02:55


I don't think it has anything to do with rush. This section of railway was opened a couple of years ago, so the system should be mature already.

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本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-7-24 12:04 編輯
算吧啦你, 人命哩架, 錯就要認,錯咗就要改。
raffaello 發表於 2011-7-24 10:04


1) The necessity of building the railway.
2) The mistakes made by the railway operation.

These are two different things. You cannot mix both together.

If they made a human error, that is their fault.
But that does not mean building the railway is not necessary.

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本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-7-24 12:08 編輯
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Sad to know you use your mouth more than your brain...
lo_pak 發表於 2011-7-24 06:29


You were concerned about the testing period before opening each line.

But this line opened in 2009, so it has been running for a period of time.

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Lik 發表於 2011-7-24 12:06


They retrieved the black box, which recorded the data, from the trains.

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Lik 發表於 2011-7-24 12:32


The related pieces have been retrieved for further investigation.

Please rinse your mouth now.

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本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-7-24 13:50 編輯
對於一件咁大單嘅意外,國際(文明)社會一貫嘅做發係成個車廂同所有有可能有用嘅證物都拖晒、執晒返去作 ...
Lik 發表於 2011-7-24 13:39


They have already transferred the relevant black box for further investigation.

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本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-7-24 13:49 編輯

铁道部回应掩埋车体一事 称非埋证据为便于抢险

http://news.sina.com.cn/c/2011-07-25/000222868778.shtml

中新网温州7月24日电(记者 夏毅)铁道部于24日晚于22点43分在浙江温州召开温甬温线特大事故新闻发布会。铁道部新闻发言人王勇平在答记者问环节时回应了掩埋车体一事,他表示主要是当时现场抢险情况复杂,“施救人员把车头埋在土里,主要是为了便于抢险。”
视频:铁道部发言人表示对高铁仍然有信心来源:浙江卫视

  对于网友质疑的,为何车体被实地掩埋,为什么不拉走,为什么不推在一边,是不是为了掩盖证据?对此,王勇平表示,当时是从接机人员那听到网上有这样的质疑声,“我问他,怎么会发生如此愚蠢的问题呢?这么举世都知道的事故淹没的了吗?”

  “他告诉我,不是想掩埋,事实上这个事情是无法掩埋的,”王勇平说,对于为什么要掩埋,他们给出了这样的解释。“因为当时在现场抢险的情况,环境非常复杂,下面是一个泥塘,施展开来很不方便,还要对其他的车体进行处理,所以他们把车头埋在下面,盖上土,主要是便于抢险。”

  “他们给出的解释是这样,至于你们信不信,我反正是信的。”王勇平说。

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本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-7-24 13:58 編輯
“他告诉我,不是想掩埋,事实上这个事情是无法掩埋的,”王勇平说,对于为什么要掩埋,他们给出了这样的解释。“因为当时在现场抢险的情况,环境非常复杂,下面是一个泥塘,施展开来很不方便,还要对其他的车体进行处理,所以他们把车头埋在下面,盖上土,主要是便于抢险。”

Whole train my a$$ la. They took some of the carts away, but the international standard procedure  ...
Lik 發表於 2011-7-24 13:52


I just hope after a couple of days, they will dig out the remaining parts of the train for further investigation.

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