Lik

The recent polls are showing Mrs Fan has 42% support.
For mad dog Wong as CEO, just let us see w ...
peter236 發表於 2011-7-15 12:01

響依家呢個特首預選跑馬仔裡面裡面，得犯婦人、條條Fing、振英哥三個玩，犯婦人咁都佔唔到最多人支持嘅話，佢都死得啦？

-力

Lik

仆街，

我講的難道不是事實嗎？ 你能否預測誰會被當選如果香港即時實行真正實際的普選？

是你們班仆街將普選議題與社會和經濟問題混為一談。 就像當年陳水扁製造的假象－支持台灣就要支持阿扁，要解決社會和經濟問題就要即時實現普選。

香港市民不會那麼容易被你們借民主之名來愚弄的。

講來講去，根本就係你呢隻賤種從來都唔相信民主、唔相信人民！去仆街啦！
rockypath 發表於 2011-7-15 12:10

你講嘅係乜撚野事實呀？你當香港選民係傻㗎？香港選民一直都識得公民最基本嘅權利：佢可以用自己手裡面嘅一票來懲罰欺騙選民嘅政棍！

假設性嘅問題我都廢撚事徙時間來答你。你要對立法會裡面因為無民意認受嘅功能組別視而不見，咁就等我再提醒你：香港特衰政府一直以來都係藉住直選得來嘅一細班保皇黨，再加上功能組別裡面嘅一眾狗賊加埋過半數議籍來強姦民意。遞補／替補基制嘅初讀之所以過到就正正係因為如此！

問責官員從來唔需要被問責，呢樣野又點會唔係可以透過民意認受來改？就好似呢度嘅 Gordon Campbell 同 Colin Hansen，因為硬推 HST 而得罪晒所有選民，所以政黨為咗保住個大勢，所以佢地兩個都要自動下台一鞠躬！反觀香港，林公公一個 hard sell 遞補基制，但佢唔鍾意落台嘅話就無人逼到佢落（阿爺當然隨時可以叫佢欄屍），而且亦唔會有影響下介高官人選嘅結果。咁樣即係算點？

以領匯來講，如果唔係家陣一大班功能組別阻住個地球轉，立法會早就可以通過要求政府收回領匯嘅各地商場管理權啦？咁啲商戶仲需要下下忍受領匯不斷無敵加租？

如果唔係保皇黨+功能組別阻住個地球轉，立法會會唔可以通過啲要徹查發水樓嘅事宜？地產霸權有可以響香港咁囂張？！

講來講去，香港嘅萬惡之源都可以追索返去功能組別同無民意認受性果度。邊個係賤種，邊個係仆街，全部都好明顯！

去仆街死啦你！

-力

Lik

資本主義社會裡面﹐就算經濟好﹐亦唔代表D人可以咩都唔做就發達。
經濟好﹐只會創造更多機會﹐讓有能力﹐有志氣同有膽識既人去掌握機會, 去成功。
那些沒能力﹐沒志氣同沒膽識既人﹐在資本主義社會裡面﹐原本就是要被淘汰既一群﹐經濟好定壞﹐當然與他們無關。
除非閣下認為香港要轉型做福利社會﹐奉行社會主義﹐甚至共產主義﹐那班要去幫助那班沒能力﹐沒志氣同沒膽識既人。
soli 發表於 2011-7-15 15:09

仆街，

今日嘅香港係，除非你係一少撮嘅特權階級（如+x哥）、大資產商、有財有勢、金融新貴等等，如果唔係根本唔會有運行。打一世牛工，到頭來嘅畢生積蓄都只不過係用晒來供樓，但+x哥就繼續日日月月年年賺到盆滿缽滿。如果你覺得咁樣都無問題嘅話，ok，你繼續去做你嘅仆街仔。

依家唔係啲人唔肯努力，而係就算你窮畢生嘅精力都好難向上爬、好難有 social mobility。

全面嘅市場經濟係冷酷嘅，而你就好明顯係信奉佢死佢賤嘅賤人。

-力

Lik

福利社會是共產主義和資本主義國家之間的中間路線，是發達國家中都降低了貧困現象的必然路線，得到的就 ...
ricrick 發表於 2011-7-16 09:54

師兄，

我真係越來越鍾意你～

-力

Lik

ＬＩＫ。。　你變心? 唔再中意我?
rainbow-davie 發表於 2011-7-16 11:08

師兄，大家講嘅都係人話，所以我一樣咁 buy 你㗎～

-力

Lik

Without wasting too much time on you, I'll just say that it is much easier, faster, and more easily achievable for the SAR government to bring real estate prices back to reasonable levels than it is to try to raise income levels (without causing inflation problems). Numerous plans can be introduced, the easiest of which are simply just the re-introduction of public housing (居屋) into the market. Alternative and innovative housing ideas could also be explored, and I have heard of a few (some were 1/2 baked, and some were better than others).

The fact of the matter is, the current SAR government under Bowtie Tsang's "leadership" is utterly useless, and only interested in serving the needs of big business and the rich and powerful.

-Lik

Lik

First, what is a reasonable price level? Can you give a number?

Second, tell us what is your proposal on how to 打倒地產霸權。 Don't give us the shxt of 普選 again.

Third, just ask yourself - why did you not see the people of the wealthy western countries complain about the inflation while their wages had increased ten and hundred times compare to what their grandfathers received?   

If you have the ability to comprehend and answer my last question, then you will be able to understand what I said. Otherwise, pick up some books and learn the basic first. Otherwise, you can only be a blinded mad dog.
rockypath 發表於 2011-7-17 11:55

Diu, you said it yourself earlier la. Housing cost that is roughly in the mid-30% of people's salary ar mah. That's pretty much the generally accepted level in financial planning. Hong Kong's affordability index is way beyond that. Vancovuer's index is higher than that as well, but not quite as bad as HK's.

The simplest action is to simply re-start 居屋 construction. You could also increase 公屋 supply in conjunction with a revived 居屋 construction. Legislators have been lobbying the SAR government to do that for quite some time, but it wasn't until Grandfather's HK-Macau supervisor came and told Bowtie Tsang in his face that he needs to re-start the public housing project. Why do you think the government can simply ignore the wishes of its people and continue to feed the big developers? Again, it all goes back to the existence of the functional constituency and how their existence is an insult to the democratic process. If LegCo members were all directly elected, LegCo could exercise a lot more pressure on the government.

If you had any sort of intelligence at all, you'd see why other countries can diversify into different industries while the same conditions can't apply in HK. I'll give you a hint -- consider how big HK is, and where HK's strength lies. HK isn't exactly just a one-trick pony, but there are lots of limiting factors in what HK could become. If you remember 老懵董 and all the failed promises that he brought up before, you'd see what I am talking about. But hey, I have no expectations from you at all~

-Lik

Lik

When is Canada going to build some public housing 居屋? What is the total supply of 居屋 in Canada? ...
peter236 發表於 2011-7-17 12:07

Stupid fxxkhead, don't waste my time. Move out to the boonies if you can't afford to live in DT.

-Lik

Lik

Moron,

Your stupid questions in post #62 shows that you either have no idea what the market is like in HK now, or you are just purposely distorting the facts for the sake of your moronic arguments.

HK real estate prices need to come down for residential purposes because regular worker joe can't afford to have his own place to live. The high end luxury market is not going to lose that much steam because it is most bouyed by Mainland China hot money. The hot money flows out of China for a vareity of reasons -- for legitimate investment purposes, for status/prestige/having "face" (what kind of a rich guy are you in the Mainland if you don't even have an apartment or two in HK? It's kind of like women and their luxury handbags.), for security (money kept save and locked away from Grandfather in case you lose power / status because money out of the country can't be confiscated by Grandfather). If you can't see the difference between the high end luxury versus the low end / mid level residential market, you really are a fxxking idiot.

The revivial of 居屋 and even an expansion of 公屋 are aimed at that low end / mid level residential market. In reviving 居屋, the SAR government can easily take some simple measures to ensure that only HK citizens can qualify for their purchases. (That might already be the case, but I am not 100% certain.) With 公屋, you can't apply anyway unless you are a HK citizen with certain income ceiling. Having a new 居屋 market and a bigger 公屋 market will inevitably drag down housing prices a bit, but the high end luxury market won't be affected that much anyway since the primary clients are wealthy Mainlanders.

I don't see how a cooler real estate market can drag down the stock market. Your post didn't state any reason for that either, and just droped the idea out of thin air when you suddenly switched from the real estate market to the stock market. Arguments like that serve no purpose. But to shut you up, I will say that the Mainland hot money is only going to stop coming to HK when the Mainland's red hot economy slows down. There are signs of this happening, but that is entirely beyond HK's control. It'll come sooner or later, and HK will have to deal with it when it does.

Lastly, I never opposed the SAR government spending the reserves on meaningful projects, but I am completely against them wasting that money on face projects such as Chinese high speed rail. Furthermore, given the choice between letting the SAR government continue to hog that money, and returning and spreading it among HK citizens, I would obviously favour the second since far more economic opportunties and activities can come from the latter.

But hey, you have repeated shown that you are too fxxking stupid to understand any of this. You are only interested in bad mouthing me and twisting my words out of context and distorting whatever ideas I bring up.

-Lik

Lik

What I said is the opposite - hot money will flow away from a cooler real estate market (because the HK government intervenes the market and makes it an unfavorable market for investment) into stock market and create devastating bubbles.

Get it? Idiot!
rockypath 發表於 2011-7-17 16:47

When your post was written in such a completely comprehensible matter, how can you expect anyone to understand what you were trying to say?

As I have already said in my post, the high end luxury (real estate) market is unlikely to cool down all that much because the hot money from China doesn't necessarily / strictly view the luxury units as a pure investment vessel.

-Lik