校本驗毒：校董妄言毋須計較學生私隱 校本

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From Fruit Daily -- 2009-08-12

【本報訊】教育局強行推出校園「自願」驗毒計劃，局方昨約晤大埔區全部中學商討，成功取得學校表態支持。私隱專員表明關注驗毒計劃衍生的學生私隱問題，但有中學校董揚言計劃為學生好，毋須計較他們的私隱權。大埔中學校長會昨舉行家長講座，有家長擔心驗毒結果出現「假陽性」，令無辜學生飽受不必要壓力。

教育局常任秘書長黃鴻超和禁毒專員黃碧兒等，昨與大埔 23所中學的代表討論驗毒計劃。黃鴻超會後表示，基本上各校均表態支持計劃，當中包括屬天主教的恩主教書院。

代表恩主教列席的天主教教區教育事務處代表儲富有表示，有待本月底政府推出具體細節後，才決定是否參加，「我哋支持抗毒大方向，不過未有決定，就算學校校長同意，都要校董會投票通過。」

家長憂慮驗毒假陽性孔教學院何郭佩珍中學校董李碧華鼓吹強制驗毒，「畀學生自願參加會有掣肘，好難搞，中學同家長應該硬啲。」她指驗毒計劃對學生好，「學生受緊中學教育嘅時候，唔需要計較佢哋嘅私隱。」佛教慧遠中學校長宋濂平也說：「有學生濫藥事件已經知道好耐，都要搵個辦法施行嘅。如果呢樣驚嗰樣驚，我哋變咗邊樣都做唔到。」

約120名家長昨晚出席家長講座，反應熱烈。兒子升中二的家長黎太贊成驗毒計劃，認為有阻嚇性，但她擔心驗毒出錯，出現假陽性，寃枉沒有吸毒的學生，「佢哋會有心理壓力，唔開心。」中五生家長韓太雖然贊成驗毒，但指政府部門過去曾洩露市民私隱，憂慮驗毒計劃會發生同樣事情。

Lik

照呢位李校董咁講，學生受緊中學教育嘅時候就唔需要計較佢哋嘅私隱。如此 extrapolate 落去，咁又可唔可以話學生受緊社會福利／服務嘅時候就唔需要計較佢哋嘅私隱，而又繼而擴展至所有享用緊社會福利同服務嘅人都唔需要計較佢哋嘅私隱呢？就算係講返轉頭，中學生唔通唔係人，唔通係無私隱嘅咩？

唔知私隱為何物嘅人，唔該自己裝返個 24小時隨身攝錄機，全日無休止咁不停廣播自己所做、所講嘅一切，睇下佢係用腦定係用屎忽諗野，又睇下佢自己有無收西環呢個最大黑社會嘅錢。

-力

Lik

The implementation methodology is certainly extremely important, and the proposals given by the government so far has been nothing short of ridiculous. Additionally, details of the aftermath of either a refusal to testing and to a positive test has been sorely lacking. Social workers will be assigned to follow up with a student refusing to test. Oh ya? But where is the social worker and required resources coming from? Where is the funding for this? And what do you do with the student that has been tested positive? Allow him to continue going to class? Kick him out? And if you kick him out, where do you place this student? And how many positive tests does the government expect? For the different expect numbers (best case, expected case, worse case, etc.), what does the government and the education system intend to do with these kids?

A simple Jing Sung highschool, with a mere student population of 120-ish was already wrecking havoc throughout Hong Kong. If the drug test turns up 1000+ students (which is probably a fairly conservative estimate, given HK's total student base), what does the government intend to do???

The entire plan is not even half-baked, and yet Bowtie and Wong Yum Lung already want to implement it and put it to practice. How can anyone support such a hastily hatched plan?

-Lik

Lik

放去戒毒學校囉
Littleprince 發表於 2009-8-12 14:35

That would be the logical thing to do, and I, along with a lot of other people (probably the majority?), are certainly not opposed to that. But where exactly is that anti-addiction school? Is it spelled out anywhere in Bowtie and 黃淫龍's drug testing plans? And if there are no such schools (正生 is the only one I know of in HK), what does the government intend to do?

With a mere student population of 120, 正生 was already wrecking havoc in HK a little while back. Without a comprehensive plan that is open to public scrutiny and suggestions, how can the current hastily patched together ad hoc testing proceed?

-Lik

Lik

佢地鍾意食就由得佢地食死佢
一D做事唔理後果既人出到社會都係做垃圾人間架jer
salad_bread 發表於 2009-8-21 19:07

憑你呢句說話就睇得出你係個咩人。

如果講緊果啲係大人嘅話，fine，咁都仲講得通。人地想死我唔通唔俾佢去死咩？但家陣講緊嘅係靚仔、係細路、係未夠秤嘅一群。話晒佢地心智都未成熟，好多時都未知道咩叫做啱定錯，亦無足夠嘅人生經驗去等佢地可以理解到事情嘅後果可以嚴重到一個點樣嘅地步，而繼而做一個 informed 又理性嘅決定。

後生仔誰孰無過？你咁樣一句就批死人地出到來社會都係做人間垃圾，難道你自己又好清高咩？

-力

Lik

斷章取義
salad_bread 發表於 2009-8-22 07:24

你打咁多我就 quote 咁多，咁都叫做斷章取義？

真犀利～

-力

Lik

自己無睇清楚我講緊啲乜就唔該你擘大對眼睇真啲先啦。

話晒佢地心智都未成熟，好多時都未知道咩叫做啱定錯，亦無足夠嘅人生經驗去等佢地可以理解到事情嘅後果可以嚴重到一個點樣嘅地步，而繼而做一個 informed 又理性嘅決定。
Lik 發表於 2009-8-21 23:17

自己鬥up完之後俾我捉到正，當眾踢爆咗你為人涼薄，我都幫你唔到架喎？

-力

Lik

Quote 埋俾你睇都仲係唔明，呢個世界啲人點解可以咁死蠢嘅呢？

人要為自己嘅所作所為負責，但大前題係佢一般來講要有呢個 capacity 去咩起呢個責任。BB仔夠係人，夠要飲奶、要人湊；老人家身體唔好，夠要人多啲照顧啦？佢無呢個能力嘅話，你點可以夾硬要佢咩？

我唔敢話我自己係咩好人，但最少我知道我情操高尚過你，咁就已經好夠喇～

-力