yayaya

it's not necessary if you can find a better owner for you dog

yayaya

Everything is about demand and supply. If we educate the public the bad things about puppy mill, t ...
totori 發表於 2010-3-17 09:52

that's why i told you to find a good broker even though you don't wanna spend more than 1000 on a dog.

a better broker usually gets pup not from everywhere but a few fixed kennels they know very well, if the pup has genetic problem, they will replace you another one, well you can't never tell whether the pup has genetic problem right, even though it's from a family the puppy will still has the probablity to have genetic problem.

except for 1 year genetic health warranty, a better broker usually gives what a pet store will give to their coustomers, which is a 48 hrs or 72 hrs fatal problem warranty.

i am a person who's doing this business but it's not equal that i don't love pets or dogs. i hope you guys understand i am just trying to let you know more real situation about it but i am not saying i support those puppy mills.

yayaya

"很多人买狗或者养狗的目的只是因为空虚寂寞，多数人只当他们是伴侣，甚至玩具，并不是每个人对狗有特别的 ...
Ultraman 發表於 2010-3-17 10:44

then you should ask those people or go to do some survey on the street instead of sitting in front of ur computer and asking me

let me tell you 1 truth, when i was a broker, if i drop the price to 380 for 1 purebred shih tzu, i got around 10 appointments in a day, people just came and pick up the dog without saying shxt, you should probably go talk with them and teach them what a puppy mill is, most of the people won't care anything if the price is low enough for the coustomers as well as the profit is high enough for the seller. and i don't think this does harm to an animal since we find a good home for them fast, some broker wanna make more money on a pup, and keep them for a long time in a crate, that's what you should blame on.

and the wrost thing should be those people who have no education about puppy mills but not those broker or pet store or dog factory.

so you here talking to me so much is useless. go teach those people who knows nothing about the puppy mills.

yayaya

Actually I'm challenging your concept.
If people want to buy live animal as toys, you think it's O ...
Ultraman 發表於 2010-3-17 10:54

haha, 同你讲野真系够无聊，这是我最后一次回复你，sex同pet，你可以类比，但是不同人愿意提供不同服务，有人愿意婚前性行为也有人不愿意，那我说去打劫能比你坐office赚得更多钱你去不去？

我愿意提供宠物中介服务，是因为我至少不是在虐待动物，我只是作为一个过渡帮他们找一个归宿，同时也帮想买狗的人也愿意找我买的人提供一个渠道，我不是说你一定要买我的狗，ok？

同样有人需要sex，所以世界上便有妓女，并且从古至今，到以后，这行业还没看不到有要消失的趋势，ok?

同埋有些行业外表看上去很脏，但是不代表每一个人都如此，妓女你也不应该歧视所有妓女，有妓女靠自己出卖肉体活口，这就是no moral? 那有些人不靠自己活口但是整天坐在家里什么都不干就很moral?

yayaya

ok，我帮各位问了，这么多人感兴趣，我拿狗那里是一个100%reg的大kennel，我以前只知道他建得很漂亮，很干净整齐，但是没有关心他是不是reg. ，现在问了也放心。

然后我还想告诉大家，某一次我从另一个dealer手上拿了一些“一到他家”非常非常脏的狗，好像长期泡在自己的屎尿生活的狗，搞得maltese那些毛都开始发黄，然后拿了两次之后还真有一只怀疑是parvo的狗出现，所以我马上停了，而且当时他的价格也很便宜，比外面能拿到的便宜很多，shih tzu他告诉我他175拿到，crazy，我想这才是真正的puppy mill，该杜绝这种人，买狗的时候要闻闻狗身上的问道

yayaya

The question becomes more interesting now.
Yeah, some people might think puppy mill is not 虐待动物  ...
Ultraman 發表於 2010-3-17 11:46

赠你几句，宠物店或者broker，他们都只是一个中介，你要找好的狗，ckc reg akc reg whatever reg，你走进去跟宠物店老板讲一声，你能交下定金，我们依然愿意为你去找，很多人就是这样walk in然后问我们有没有哪种狗，那我们也会去联系breeder，而不是匆匆忙忙看广告里哪里有人卖而去买回来卖。我们只是一个中介机构，罪恶的根源你可以说是想赚钱的puppy mill和想买便宜狗又不介意卫生的人，而我们作为正当的中介机构，我们不提供从puppy mill为你找puppy的服务。

而召妓，纯粹是两个人之间的事，那些妓女就站在街上你走过拉你进去，并不涉及到一个中介人的问题，而且性质也不同，你见到正当卖狗的人被人抓过么？经常卖病狗的人才有问题，我卖出去的狗到目前为止不少了，发病的几率几乎是1-3%而已，而且无论是broker还是pet store，我都给health warranty，因为我花时间跟breeder建立了良好的关系，有什么问题你退回来我还可以退回去，人们才给钱我花，不然无端端给我几百块帮他们找狗？一个接一个？people are not stupid, you know?

而如果你说不准pet store卖狗，那原本靠卖狗来生存的一些pet store就关闭，然后你家楼下可能就少了一间pet  store，同时也带来给人们购买其他物品的不便，你想帮你家的狗做次grooming什么的要跑老大远你嫌麻烦不？

yayaya

The question becomes more interesting now.
Yeah, some people might think puppy mill is not 虐待动物  ...
Ultraman 發表於 2010-3-17 11:46

holy fuxk, 我觉得你阅读能力有问题，不想再同你讲野
我说我是中介我没有虐待动物不是说puppy mill没有虐待动物，我不开puppy mill我也不从puppy mill拿狗，如果我发现了卖我狗的人是puppy mill我马上会停止both 为了自己的business和不助长这些人

puppy mill of course is immoral但我怎么觉得你把immoral套到我头上来了？

yayaya

这个我只是说买了后又没法养下去的情况，不等于我叫你不要考虑适合不适合，实在上可能有一半的人都没有考虑过这问题就买狗，好像我做这生意，一天到晚接触动物，我就不适合养，所以我坚持以后什么都不养