pigheadbone

原帖由 Mashimaro 於 2007-12-15 02:32 發表
i have talked to some of the profs in the SFU ENSC department about the outdated programs. Their reply was that for the past 2 years they are already trying to restructure the old ENSC programs (like  ...

I'm so glad I didn't go to SFU's ENSC... but it's not just ENSC and not just SFU, there is always a disconnect between the modern world and the academics.

pigheadbone

I wonder would that mean a master degree is needed for engineering and computer science in the future....

what a waste of people's time.

pigheadbone

原帖由 Ovaltine 於 2007-12-15 05:32 發表
I am one of those lazy students. Still in highschool now at the ripped age of 19, I plan to go in to UVic and finish a degree in Humanities.  I am a pretty average student in Highschool, due to my lac ...

I totally agree with you on the fact that the current education system does not really work in many cases - rarely do people find what they learnt at school marginally useful later on.  On the other hand, like any infrastructure out there, there's always a way to "beat" the system - and I don't mean doing that by cheating, but by learning how to optimize the effort such that one can maximize his/her score at school.

It's almost like we have to adopt the mentality that we have to both learn things for ourselves and to learn things so that we can "beat the system".

pigheadbone

原帖由 Traum 於 2007-12-16 12:16 發表

In response your post, PigHeadBone, I would argue that the point of the basic education system is not to teach you something useful in terms of factual information. Rather, it is to instill a way of  ...

no doubt about that - my point though is that people who complain about the education system for teaching rather seemingly impractical stuff should spend the energy to look for ways to beat the system instead.

That's the single most important soft skill that needs to be learnt.

[ 本帖最後由 pigheadbone 於 2007-12-16 16:27 編輯 ]

pigheadbone

原帖由 Traum 於 2007-12-16 16:52 發表
Understood.

It seems like you think knowing how or learning how to beat the system is the most important skill that a student should learn. On that point, I do not agree with you. While it is certain ...

it's the world I'd like to see too where "solid foundation" would "beat" the system, unfortunately, in reality that's not how it works.  

To change how the world works, you need to become powerful.  One of the most important skills is to know how the system works and how to play it better than anyone else - and that system maybe the economical system (to become rich), political system (to become politically powerful and change how the world works), or what have you.

pigheadbone

原帖由 notgoddy 於 2007-12-18 23:15 發表
"To change how the world works, you need to become powerful."

Or become a real pest, like a virus. Good ideas are unstoppable. Like suicide bombing.

The real problem with suicide bombing though, is you can only do it once.

pigheadbone

原帖由 Traum 於 2007-12-19 10:37 發表

精人出口，笨人出手。 你幾時見過拉登自己出來做  suicide bombing 架？

-力

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