BiscottiGelato

Plenty of immigrants definately are leaching off from the Canadian gov'ts coffer. Esp those rich bastards who still leaches off all sort of benefits and social assistance here. They are eligible since they do not have a local income stream, but have large pile of cash or other income flows from unreported foreign sources.

I know many hongers being some of the worst offenders in this regard. On this, Mainlanders are just merely following hongers.

This is not the same as 雙非. But the net effect is additional burden on the local infrastructure and essentially leaching off legitimate taxpayer's money. Often times, these taxpayers that gets the extra burden are the very childrens of these rich immigrant bastards.

BiscottiGelato

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imvitasoy 發表於 2012-3-4 12:13

I agree that more talents are eroded towards the US more so than Asia. As you said, if one can find a job locally, why'd they go back to Asia? That said, if I can find a job in the states (Cali for Tech, Chicago/NY for Finance), why stay in Vancouver/Toronto, etc?

If the incoming immigrants plays by the rules, then the math done by the immigration department holds. However, many don't. They avoid taxes, fakes global income and asset levels, ripping off benefits off the locals that actually needs it, etc. The added load on the local tax base effectively penalizes the average legitimate taxpayers, the same way mainlanders puts burden on the HK working class.

The difference tho is, there are potentially up to 1.3 billion mainlanders flocking to HK, which holds a population of 7 million. Where-as there are only around 6.5 million HK'ers potentially flocking to Canada which has a population of 30+ million. Along with much more rational immigration policy that Canada imposes, comparing to policy which literally encourages selling out HK piece by piece to mainlanders... that's how the net result is starkly different.

BiscottiGelato

I agree that more talents are eroded towards the US more so than Asia. As you said, if one can find  ...
imvitasoy 發表於 2012-3-5 03:44

Yeah, there are people that goes back up North/back from Asia for better quality of living and for free medi too. But for talents that seeks career opportunities, many (not all) looks down south.

Whether it be immigration's math doesn't add up, poor policy planning, negligence, lack of enforcement, whatever it is. Rich immigrants leaching off local benefits by faking statuses and underpaying taxes definately puts extra and unfair burden on legitimate taxpayers. That is without a doubt.

BiscottiGelato

You guys are fixating too much on China/Hong Kong. The leading abusers in Canada are most likely fro ...
peter236 發表於 2012-3-5 05:05

We are talking about rich immigrants abusing the system... I don't know if 'rich' immigrants makes up the majority of immigrants from these countries?

BiscottiGelato

By definition immigrant  雙非.  

Immigrants are legit and approved; whereas 雙非 lied about their p ...
blue20ae 發表於 2012-3-5 09:23

But some rich immigrants lie about their income and asset level instead....

BiscottiGelato

Whatever it is, the essence is the same. One group of people moves to another place in pursuit of  ...
快樂牛郎 發表於 2012-3-5 18:11

x2

BiscottiGelato

Greed and racism are inherent in all human races and nationalities.

Hong kong people can look dow ...
快樂牛郎 發表於 2012-3-6 11:57

Everyone is selfish and greedy. That's fine.

Problem is the HK gov't is not protecting their fellow citizen. The reasoning behind this might be understandable, but is definately not agreeable.

BiscottiGelato

HK is just a city, not a country.  I don't think protecting its own citizens should even be a prio ...
快樂牛郎 發表於 2012-3-6 15:05

It's evident that it's not a priority. That's exactly the problem for HK citizens, living under a gov't that just wanna sell their asses off.