satil

FightFightHST V.2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frnBgX9QRZM

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回復 5# rainbow-davie

Let me try answer.. just my 2cents
1) at same time, we asking for MORE welfare. can we help gov cut the running cost? Where the money come from?
2/3) everyone know, if gov need more money, no one guarantee. Why gov need more money? If we have business like Alberta, do we need provincial tax?
4) Before HST, MOST of goods have PST (not only some). Most NO-pst before, now still 5%. Like raw food. (that’s y I keep asking why catering business keep saying cost increased after HST)
5) yes. We always keep a profit level. We cannot say I want 500%, when market only 30%. We save cost, it will change our investment plan. Buy more tools, get more staff.. or reduce price. Please remember market competition.

satil

As business owner, I support HST. It lower my production cost, save a lot of man power. Less argue between customers, what/which parts of business is GST and PST. (e.g. printing, should paper/ink… and service separate tax? Yes, should separate, but most companies charge you ONE item and PST&GST all). In the past, we always OVER tax customers.
When there is PST, we have to separate resell/self use products, lots of small shop, they don’t allow PST exception. So, it always multi-PSTed on materials. Before HST, we simply put profit on top of ALL unnecessary tax, so customers don’t know they pay MORE. Now, all hidden PST gone. Will business owner reduce price? Yes, I will. For Example, before HST, my profit is 30%. Why? It means that business category accept this profit range between all companies. (market competition) After HST, if I have 10% more from hidden PST, my profit raise to 40%, the market will reset to 30% very soon. Of course, if the business is an exclusive, no competition, they do not need to have price reductions.
As a traveler, drinker and car lover, less hotel tax, less liquor tax, no luxury car tax. After HST, I saved a lot of money.
I support HST, BUT, 10%. (it is easy calculate) NOT 12%. They increase the tax base!

fyi. i have businesses in BC and Alberta, so i know how simple when totally no PST (simply 1 tax when retail). and most ppl don't know how bad with hidden-multi-PST in BC.

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回復 14# real-mccoy

Price keep on a level before HST. base on market competition. this is all base on Cost. if cost drop. market will auto adjust.
I use example : profit 30%, ask yourself, how we mark the price before HST. Why 30%, why not 200%. Is it possible, you want 200%, you can mark 200%. Why not all companies mark a 500% profit level? What make it down to a reasonable (for everyone) profit level?
If you say, we now have 10% more back (cost drop), and we keep it. So why not a 40% profit level before the HST. What make it stay in 30% before HST?
What if a company sudden want boost sell, set profit level to 25%, will you follow, or make it 20% to fight back?
This price game happened before and it will happen in the future. When cost drop, it will auto adjust and reflect later. It need time to let the number come back. A lot of materials/procedures/parts/services under hidden-multi-PST already in the middle of production (prices sat year/mth ago), waiting to cleanup. Not you have HST today, and you want the effects showed same day. i say about 2 years.
you don't see price drop, and price increase a lot in past few months. it is totally not related to HST.
see the sugar, it +30% in two months. paper +25% in one month. its all about the source. material price raise a lot in last few months, it is global issus.

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回復 16# real-mccoy


i understand, lots ppl need see it and "it already proof", that is NOT believe.
for myself, in Canada 25yrs, holding 5 companies, in BC and Alberta, 1 in HK, around 300ppl under payroll.
i know (not believe) HST is better.
i understand the "balance point" will shift. when cost down. or cost up. what make you think the "balance point" with NOT shift after HST?
i told you, i will lower the price to gain market, you think no one will follow? and finally reach a lower "balance point"? really NO ONE ?????

lots ppl will ask "what if NOT" , same i ask "what if YES". use logic and think. "what if NOT" only happen when assume 100% NO ONE start to lower the price. "what if YES" if only one or two start the cycle, then we will have a lower "balance point".  if you are business, you always force your supplier a lower price, you wouldn't be so stupid, not try to cut your cost, right? if they have rooms, will they lower a bit to keep your business. (competition). this is where the cycle begin.

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回復 19# rockypath

"we are upset with they way HST was introduced (and Campbell refused to reduce the tax rate when the tax base was enlarged) but not the HST system itself."

totally agree!

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回復 23# soli

大部份公司都內部自己做pst & gst. 這是一般bookkeeping.
轉用hst分別亦不大.
到cga/ca都唔多關事, 對佢地無太大job既關係.
相信他們純以稅制的結構與好壞提出支持.

satil

我估都係, 佢地最想擴大稅基. 更應減稅率!

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回復 28# lo_pak

我唔係39.. 我都想