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原帖由 daimo 於 2009-1-5 22:17 發表
SB, 林天民 didn't write the article above.  Please read #2.

oh...thanks for the clarification...and sorry Mr. 林天民 (whoever you are)

sigh...when I see so many words I will skip to the main points...LOL

now daimo, you made me look so stupid...j/k

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原帖由 starbug 於 2009-1-5 22:24 發表


佢無非都係講真相, 我都寧願信個神打佬都好過信個耶穌佬.

oh no...you quote me before I removed my post...LOL

well, not hard to understand cuz spirit possessed can really do extraordinary things in front of you...but the Bible also said that believing without seeing is more blessed (or stupid? up to you)

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原帖由 starbug 於 2009-1-5 22:36 發表
冇見過都會信先叫做信.., 我聽咗好多年咯, 恕我祗係愚民一名, 唔見過真係唔識信. 我一直都覺得呢句嘢係D神棍護身符.

Not really 護身符 geh...eyes are deceiving sometimes, what you see might not be the truth, on the other hand what you don't see might not be false.

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原帖由 chunsh 於 2009-1-5 22:50 發表


何謂"成熟的基督徒" 和"不成熟的基督徒"?

我想﹐這個世界上沒有一個可以稱為完全成熟的基督徒吧
人有7情6慾﹐自私﹐貪婪﹐凶殘......只要基督徒是人﹐就不可能有例外
早前有機會去join一個教會event, 發覺那些教友本身只係 ...

Mature doesn't have to be right all the time, but if one can act in a certain manner most of the time that's sufficient to be called mature right?  Where to draw the line?  I guess the people around you should decide?

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我認為呢段歴史可能祇係一講咗千幾年嘅大話, one of the marketing mix.
祇要有第一批人信咗, 信到爆咗廠嗰隻, 咁呢個歴史故事就會不停咁roll落去, 就算明知有錯有漏洞都會有人同佢摭摭掩掩落去, 尤其係一斑既得利益團體, 甚至不惜逼害異教徒, 甚至殺人滅口

Church is a 得利益團體?  Lots of church (some I don't want to mention cuz they push people to donate) gave pretty much everything for free, how is it making a profit?

Can you be more specific about "有錯有漏洞" and in what aspect?

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原帖由 mcjohnjohn 於 2009-1-5 23:25 發表


天主教既神父同修女, 都有收津貼(人工)既. 小弟讀既中學, 好多神父揸車出面, 我當年覺得佢地好以好富貴架!

well, if one serves god and have wage I think it's not a big big problem, but once he wants money so he serves god then it's a big problem

If you take a look at the beginning of Revelations, it describes a few kinds of "church" and which one will last till Christ returns.  I hope you choose the correct one.

Btw, one of the problems with Christians these days is that they don't read the Bible and have a poor relationship with God...  I'm not saying I'm perfect but I'm just pointing out the truth

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well, I don't know what Christians are you surrounded by but personally I haven't seen this kind of arguments around me very often....

Not related to your example...but do you think swearing is OK for Christians?  To me I don't think so, but to some they think it's not so bad...did the Bible mention any teachings about this...I'm sure it does!

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Nobody created God and God doesn't need to be created.  He's not bounded by time or cause.

Just because there are bad examples of Christian doesn't have anything to do with Christianity itself.  Even Judah was Jesus' disciple, followed him for a few years, and what has he done?  He even saw the miracles that Jesus performed and listened to his teachings.  Having Judah or any other bad examples doesn't prove that Christ is not God.  In any kind of large organization, there are always good appples and bad apples.

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原帖由 chunsh 於 2009-1-6 09:54 發表



輸打贏要既最佳例子
用人既logic去說服人﹐但又deny人既logic

how do u know god doesn't need to be created? who told u he is not bounded
by any time or cause? Are u an experts of time and space and ca ...

I'm surprised somone who actually asked who created God at this stage of the discussion.  For one thing I know for sure is that this is the "definition" that people came up with and is generally accepted.

If God is created, then who created the one who created God and so on?  There's no end!  So even without religious views, people came up with the definition of God for argument purposes.

You certainly don't need to agree on this but if you don't then there will be no discussion cuz nothing will stand anymore.

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