chobit

I pickup my Collie from a breeder across the border in the US when I was still in Vancouver.  It was a responsible breeder whom would only let us have Jazzie after our 2nd visit, so both of us can take out time to consider if we are fit for each other.

My Collie's mother is a winning show dog, healthy.  She is now over 8+ old, and she have been very healthy.

I have been telling many others people who wanted a puppy.  Please don't think you are saving money when buying your puppy at 1/2 the price.  Because it will cost you many times more $$$ for all the Vet. visit for your un-healthy doggy.  Not good for the industry, yourself, your dog, and your pocket.

yayaya

ok，我帮各位问了，这么多人感兴趣，我拿狗那里是一个100%reg的大kennel，我以前只知道他建得很漂亮，很干净整齐，但是没有关心他是不是reg. ，现在问了也放心。

然后我还想告诉大家，某一次我从另一个dealer手上拿了一些“一到他家”非常非常脏的狗，好像长期泡在自己的屎尿生活的狗，搞得maltese那些毛都开始发黄，然后拿了两次之后还真有一只怀疑是parvo的狗出现，所以我马上停了，而且当时他的价格也很便宜，比外面能拿到的便宜很多，shih tzu他告诉我他175拿到，crazy，我想这才是真正的puppy mill，该杜绝这种人，买狗的时候要闻闻狗身上的问道

yayaya

The question becomes more interesting now.
Yeah, some people might think puppy mill is not 虐待动物  ...
Ultraman 發表於 2010-3-17 11:46

赠你几句，宠物店或者broker，他们都只是一个中介，你要找好的狗，ckc reg akc reg whatever reg，你走进去跟宠物店老板讲一声，你能交下定金，我们依然愿意为你去找，很多人就是这样walk in然后问我们有没有哪种狗，那我们也会去联系breeder，而不是匆匆忙忙看广告里哪里有人卖而去买回来卖。我们只是一个中介机构，罪恶的根源你可以说是想赚钱的puppy mill和想买便宜狗又不介意卫生的人，而我们作为正当的中介机构，我们不提供从puppy mill为你找puppy的服务。

而召妓，纯粹是两个人之间的事，那些妓女就站在街上你走过拉你进去，并不涉及到一个中介人的问题，而且性质也不同，你见到正当卖狗的人被人抓过么？经常卖病狗的人才有问题，我卖出去的狗到目前为止不少了，发病的几率几乎是1-3%而已，而且无论是broker还是pet store，我都给health warranty，因为我花时间跟breeder建立了良好的关系，有什么问题你退回来我还可以退回去，人们才给钱我花，不然无端端给我几百块帮他们找狗？一个接一个？people are not stupid, you know?

而如果你说不准pet store卖狗，那原本靠卖狗来生存的一些pet store就关闭，然后你家楼下可能就少了一间pet  store，同时也带来给人们购买其他物品的不便，你想帮你家的狗做次grooming什么的要跑老大远你嫌麻烦不？

yayaya

The question becomes more interesting now.
Yeah, some people might think puppy mill is not 虐待动物  ...
Ultraman 發表於 2010-3-17 11:46

holy fuxk, 我觉得你阅读能力有问题，不想再同你讲野
我说我是中介我没有虐待动物不是说puppy mill没有虐待动物，我不开puppy mill我也不从puppy mill拿狗，如果我发现了卖我狗的人是puppy mill我马上会停止both 为了自己的business和不助长这些人

puppy mill of course is immoral但我怎么觉得你把immoral套到我头上来了？

khaki

而如果你说不准pet store卖狗，那原本靠卖狗来生存的一些pet store就关闭，然后你家楼下可能就少了一间pet  store，同时也带来给人们购买其他物品的不便，你想帮你家的狗做次grooming什么的要跑老大远你嫌麻烦不？
yayaya 發表於 2010-3-17 18:07

    A great pet store like Tisol, they don't have pet sales nor grooming service, but they are reputated, and their business is doing great!

I support no more dog sales (even bunny sales, cats sales) in pet stores, that will prevent a lot of people taking a dog home just because of 一見鍾情, and later find out they are not capable of being a pet owner, then find a "better owner for that dog" (quoted from yayaya), that's IRRESPONSIBLE.

yayaya

这个我只是说买了后又没法养下去的情况，不等于我叫你不要考虑适合不适合，实在上可能有一半的人都没有考虑过这问题就买狗，好像我做这生意，一天到晚接触动物，我就不适合养，所以我坚持以后什么都不养

khaki

这个我只是说买了后又没法养下去的情况，不等于我叫你不要考虑适合不适合，实在上可能有一半的人都没有考虑 ...
yayaya 發表於 2010-3-17 18:19

    I agree on your point, that's why pet sales in pet stores should be banned.

Ultraman

而如果你说不准pet store卖狗，那原本靠卖狗来生存的一些pet store就关闭，然后你家楼下可能就少了一间pet  store，同时也带来给人们购买其他物品的不便，你想帮你家的狗做次grooming什么的要跑老大远你嫌麻烦不？
yayaya 發表於 2010-3-17 18:07

It's you shouldn't yell in front of the computer this time, go talk to the government. Only me can't change the world like that.

Ultraman

holy fuxk, 我觉得你阅读能力有问题，不想再同你讲野
我说我是中介我没有虐待动物不是说puppy mill没有虐 ...
yayaya 發表於 2010-3-17 18:15

Excuse me! I didn't point at you in person, I'm just saying puppy mill in general. You don't need to get angry and take the seat like with a matching number ticket on hand.

superberry

回復 60# chobit

cuz I was a customer service manager of the Petcetera @ Arbutus 5 years ago. You will find more horrifying stories at the FB group called "Petcetera sucks".