ACC-HE

why girls only?  This is driving, not a yoga / gym class, who cares.

fibbi

My hubby also goes to track (mission and portland) with stock car....(SMG)

I have attended a driving class myself..it's pretty useful but I'm still scared to experience those "under steering over steering" so I should have sign up for more classes too.

spoonek4

fanbanlo你應該都知所有autocross event都有分class，所以你唔係用一部廠車去同D 改裝車砌，你當然可以用你本身既時間同同組既人比較，亦都可以用PAX time睇下你撼唔撼得低D 改裝車.....

依我睇法，你去VCMC event有你著數因為多好多渣唔同車種既快人(唔止快車)o係度，同埋真係一個正規autocross event，你學到野既機會會多D！你去BMWCCBC果D佢地絕大部份都係尾驅車你叫佢教你渣部FF車佢真係分分鐘頭都痕X埋。

ACC-HE

回復 53# spoonek4


    hahaha... ya, good point. thx.

BiscottiGelato

fanbanlo你應該都知所有autocross event都有分class，所以你唔係用一部廠車去同D 改裝車砌，你當然可以用你 ...
spoonek4 發表於 2010-7-2 16:05

Not quite. Don't know if you even been to BMWCCBC events to make such a statement. BMWCCBC is just the event organizer, Drivings Unlimited conducts everything on that day (well, maybe other than taking photos and such...)

Drivings Unlimited is basically a group of people that does nothing but driving, racing, teach driving, etc. They train police, security personells, coach racers, organizes corporate events, manufacturer vehicle test drive events, etc. Some of the instructors races part time themselves. They basically drive for a living and I don't think they'd have problem teaching you on FWD or RWD. They also seem to have more experience with more varying types of cars and students (think what kinda cars D 呀叔s and Si Lais can drive in to BMWCCBC/Drivings Unlimited's Safety courses: SUVs, wagons... or police cars, armored vehicles....). I've seen stock 90s Corollas, super souped up CRXs, X5, Volvo wagons... to Lotus Elise, 911s new and old, and in one case on a Mission day, a Porsch Carrera GT... So it's definatley not just BMWs there. It's not BMWCCBC members teaching you there. Executives usually just show up to ensure payment and attendance, then they just sit back and relax. Drivings Unlimited are the ones who does all the heavy lifting.

Pro on BMWCCBC/Drivings Unlimted events are you get tons of times around the course. Averages 40+ a day for about $140 bucks? No cone work, everything is taken care of for you. Also, professionals who drives and teaches for a living. Cons on BMWCCBC/Drivings Unlimited events are they do not time you. And it can be exhausting to put in 40ish laps a day.

I've been to both VCMC events and Drivings Unlimited events. I personally enjoy the latter's events more. More relaxing, more consistency in coaching among instructors. And simply putting 8 laps in + cone work just wastes my day. To purely just have fun driving, BMWCCBC hands down. Otherwise I'd recommend taking a VCMC Velocity to learn the basics, practicing with BMWCCBC events, and when you know what you are doing, go back to VCMC's events to get a time to verify your skills.

ACC-HE

http://www.bmwccbc.org/schools/index.html#skills

July 11 2010 at British Columbia Driving Center at Pitt Meadows Airport
http://www.karelo.com/enter_res.php?&BID=49#Ev9102

Cool, sounds fun!

BiscottiGelato

July 11 2010 at British Columbia Driving Center at Pitt Meadows Airport


Cool, sounds fun!
ACC-HE 發表於 2010-7-2 17:01

I'm thinking of going to the Driving Skills (Auto X day) in August, then hitting Mission (non-passing) again with them coming October.

BiscottiGelato

RWD 太多油會甩
VSA 可以令你唔甩

FWD trail brake, 彎中 Lift throttle 個尾會出
VSA 可能會令你救唔到 ...
Derek128 發表於 2010-7-1 23:40

And just noticed and want to confirm... Trail braking shouldn't lead to throttle lift, unless you are pointing to something else. Trail braking as far as I understand from track days and from Wiki, points to the continual application of brake past the point of steering into the corner, and the gradual reduction of brake pressure as the vehicle increases cornering angle and reach towards the apex.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_braking#Driving

Throttle lift, as I'd imagine, would happen after you move onto the gas pedal to maintain constant vehicle speed through the apex. An abrupt lift of the throttle either in the Apex or when powering out of the corner will cause excessive weight shift to the front, inducing oversteer.

布小熊

why girls only?  This is driving, not a yoga / gym class, who cares.
ACC-HE 發表於 2010-7-2 03:53 PM

I am just hoping that girls won't be as competitive. So I won't feel as stress. I penic when I drive sometimes...

ACC-HE

回復 59# 布小熊
Then maybe BiscottiGelato's bmwccbc is a good choice for you.