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資本主義社會裡面﹐就算經濟好﹐亦唔代表D人可以咩都唔做就發達。
經濟好﹐只會創造更多機會﹐讓有能力﹐有志氣同有膽識既人去掌握機會, 去成功。
那些沒能力﹐沒志氣同沒膽識既人﹐在資本主義社會裡面﹐原本就是要被淘汰既一群﹐經濟好定壞﹐當然與他們無關。
除非閣下認為香港要轉型做福利社會﹐奉行社會主義﹐甚至共產主義﹐那班要去幫助那班沒能力﹐沒志氣同沒膽識既人。
soli 發表於 2011-7-15 15:09

仆街,

今日嘅香港係,除非你係一少撮嘅特權階級(如+x哥)、大資產商、有財有勢、金融新貴等等,如果唔係根本唔會有運行。打一世牛工,到頭來嘅畢生積蓄都只不過係用晒來供樓,但+x哥就繼續日日月月年年賺到盆滿缽滿。如果你覺得咁樣都無問題嘅話,ok,你繼續去做你嘅仆街仔。

依家唔係啲人唔肯努力,而係就算你窮畢生嘅精力都好難向上爬、好難有 social mobility。

全面嘅市場經濟係冷酷嘅,而你就好明顯係信奉佢死佢賤嘅賤人。

-力

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本帖最後由 lo_pak 於 2011-7-15 15:38 編輯

回復 51# Lik

I would rather say the current system has surpressed the "normal" living quality of the "general" public... In other words, it's tilted... I don't think a 功利 society is what HKer's anticipated... For some capitalists, they would rather having a grinder prepared for the poors at time when they are asking for welfare...

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回復  peter236

To remind most of you...
You guys have missed the importance of the neutuality of j ...
lo_pak 發表於 2011-7-15 14:13

Are the Indian, Philippine and Greek justice system totally independent of the government?

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資本主義社會裡面﹐就算經濟好﹐亦唔代表D人可以咩都唔做就發達。
經濟好﹐只會創造更多機會﹐讓有能力﹐ ...
soli 發表於 2011-7-15 15:09


甘你應為加拿大的制度如何?

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加拿大就是福利社會。
國民生產力負擔不了龐大的社會福利﹐所以欠債屢屢。

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本帖最後由 rockypath 於 2011-7-16 03:49 編輯
回復  rockypath

The first to deal with must be public housing (that's what our former Tung propose ...
lo_pak 發表於 2011-7-15 08:08


Lik and his friends have presented their opinions and what they said were not out of our expectation at all the same old 三幅屁. It is fortunate that HK is not ruled under them.

I can only have short response for this complex issue since I had wasted too much time on educating Lik and need to catch up what I left behind.

I am not an expert neither in HK economy nor politic. I just share my thoughts and welcome meaningful feedback and corrections.

I agree with you that the issue of housing is the heaviest burden HK people are facing on daily basis and the HK government needs to address this issue urgently if it wants to maintain the social stability and economic growth.

However, I don’t think the government can tackle this issue directly. The impact created by the instability of the real state market will be too huge and forces the HK government to take any real state related policy with extreme caution.

Real state is one of the most fundamental investment options of HK people and businesses. You should understand what I want to say.

To ease the heat of the real state market, HK government must create other alternative investment options to allow the money to flow away from the real state market.

Before the government can create those alternative options, I don’t think it has the courage to implement any serious policy to discourage continuing investing in real state. It would be suicidal if the government does so since those capitals could flow out to other foreign markets which will be devastating to HK economy and its status as a world finance center. I think this should be one of the reasons the HK government dare not take actions on 地產霸權。   

I know I should elaborate more but I don’t have the time to do so. You can share your points if you are interested and I will respond at a later time.

P.S. -- I am curious to know when people demonstrated and demand the government to 打倒地產霸權, do they have any idea how to 打倒地產霸權 and the impacts after 地產霸權被打倒? Part of 地產霸權 is actually their own invested money. It is ironic, isn't it?

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本帖最後由 ricrick 於 2011-7-16 10:03 編輯
加拿大就是福利社會。
國民生產力負擔不了龐大的社會福利﹐所以欠債屢屢。 ...
soli 發表於 2011-7-15 16:41



福利社會是共產主義和資本主義國家之間的中間路線,是發達國家中都降低了貧困現象的必然路線,得到的就是真正和諧,香港行這一步卓卓有餘,有錢人雖交多了稅,但仍然絕不成問題,生活安穩。

貧富懸殊是一切社會問題的禍根。若你不喜歡,請你不要在加拿大浪費資源,你大可以滾回極右極惡的官僚資本主義中國大陸,做你的高幹子弟,享盡榮華富貴,幾十億奴隸為你服務,若不是,你就做一世民工奴隸,受一切壓迫,最終成為下一位革命隊員吧。

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福利社會是共產主義和資本主義國家之間的中間路線,是發達國家中都降低了貧困現象的必然路線,得到的就 ...
ricrick 發表於 2011-7-16 09:54

師兄,

我真係越來越鍾意你~

-力

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LIK。。 你變心? 唔再中意我?

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LIK。。 你變心? 唔再中意我?
rainbow-davie 發表於 2011-7-16 11:08

師兄,大家講嘅都係人話,所以我一樣咁 buy 你㗎~

-力

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