mcjohnjohn

If you look at the map there seems to be a pattern. From the Sahara desert in Africa, to the Middle East, Central Asia and China's western Xinjiang region. Some of the pollutants is due to the sand from the deserts.
peter236 發表於 2010-9-30 13:38

If so, how come desert in central of Australia does not make it a polluted region?

Lik

You think only western countries are allowed to build and China should not build modern buildings to improve their living standards?
Lik, when are you going to stop going to autocross which wastes gasoline and pollutes the air? Maybe you should stop driving you polluting car to work.
peter236 發表於 2010-9-29 21:37

Moron,

Of course China has as much right as every other country to build and develop as well. But given today's environment conditions, they need to do it in a civil and environmentally friendly manner. Currently, China is one of the biggest polluters in the world, although their per capita pollution rating is still low. But that is only because of the huge number of rural population that skews the per capita number way down. If you only take the urban cities into consideration, I bet China's pollution numbers are far worse than any of western country.

My auto racing excursions hardly amounts to anything at all, as my vehicle is in good repair, and passes Air Care in flying colours. Plus, racing in a controlled environment is the perfect way to hone a driver's driving skills. As a means of driver training, it actively reduces the chances of accidents on the street. If every driver on the road can learn to drive better, including improving their emergency defensive driving skills, do you know how much fewer accidents we will have on the street? Not only will that save you on car insurance, it would also consume significantly less resources from collision repairs. If anything, my racing experience helps to reduce pollution.

Now STFU and keep quiet la. You have no chance trying to argue with me.

-Lik

lo_pak

回復 39# peter236

In power generation (in general), 2 important components are confining:

1) Heat source;
2) Water

When you look at the map of China, changing the method of power generation (substituting fossil fuels with hydro, wind, nuclear...) in the eastern part is comparatively easier (just $$). In the western part it's difficult. An easier way to do is to produce the power in the east and run a long way via high voltage powerline to power the west, but again, it's $$$$...

When more people are dying because of the pollution, people will know the $$$ they save from power generation actually pay off in a different form...

Lik

If you look at the map there seems to be a pattern. From the Sahara desert in Africa, to the Middle East, Central Asia and China's western Xinjiang region. Some of the pollutants is due to the sand from the deserts.
peter236 發表於 2010-9-29 21:38

仲枉你夠膽講沙漠帶來嘅污染...知唔知北京點解成日都有沙漠暴呀？

That is why China is investing big in hydro power, solar power and wind power.
China is investing big in highspeed railways and subways which are reducing the reliance on polluting cars.
peter236 發表於 2010-9-29 21:42

And yet China continues to rely on coal as its primary source of power generation. Even Wen Jaibao has made it perfectly clear in Copenhagen that China would not shift its focus away from using coal as the country's primary source of power. And even the 3 Gorges project is nowhere nearly as effective as the government has originally claimed.

For all the mass transit work that China has done, China is still the fastest growing car market in the world, and it is also the biggest automobile market in the world now.

-Lik

peter236

If so, how come desert in central of Australia does not make it a polluted region?
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2010-9-29 22:06

This part I cannot explain since I am not expert. Could be due to other factors like climate pattern or wind direction. But in Sahara desert, and Saudi Arabia, there is little industries. Still there is a lot of pollutants according to this map.

peter236

Moron,

Of course China has as much right as every other country to build and develop as well. But  ...
Lik 發表於 2010-9-29 22:07

You think you are standing on a moral high ground?
If you don't stop going to autocross or driving to work, then you should STFU. Everyone of us should do our little part in cutting back on the use of gasoline. You are wasting gasoline and polluting the air while racing in your stupid car. You have no excuse here.

In big Chinese cities like Beijing or Shanghai, most people commute by bus or subway. And you people in North America drive your cars like crazy everyday.

mcjohnjohn

This part I cannot explain since I am not expert. Could be due to other factors like climate patter ...
peter236 發表於 2010-9-30 14:22

In Saudi Arabia, pollution may be caused by process of oil drilling.
Sahara desert... I really have no clue.  

mcjohnjohn

In big Chinese cities like Beijing or Shanghai, most people commute by bus or subway. And you people in North America drive your cars like crazy everyday.
peter236 發表於 2010-9-30 14:26

Are you one of the "you people in North America"?...

peter236

Are you one of the "you people in North America"?...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2010-9-29 22:30

Thank you for using Hong Kong railway.