Davidcopperfeel

and many discussions terminated when people ask, if god is such perfect, how can it/he/she exist  ...
chunsh 發表於 2010-9-2 12:01

I do have several questions for you...



If humans can be created by god, why god can't be exists because he exists?

If god has to be created by "Someone"?.....then what's the real definition of "God"?

If that "Someone" created God, then what should we call him?



and...oh wait... Who created the "god creator"?


My question is if god has to be "CREATED" by another "God" ?

Why God-Creator can't be exists because he exists?



Is it hard to believe "Someone" who created the universe can be exists because he exists?



Can we (human) make the Universe?

Do you think "Time" still exists when there is no more universe?


If some people think they came out of a rock.....Do you think their parents were never existed just because they thought they weren't?


Do you think the "BIG BANG" Created human beings and all the living things?


If there is "Someone" who created everything........Do you think we (human) can truly understand him?



We should judge god's existence when we (human) able to created another universe or earth umm... No maybe when we can created "Water" from nothing

Davidcopperfeel

You want the proves of God's existence?

If "God" exist, then everything in the universe (including us) is the prove of it's existence.


If God never exist, then we (humans) are the prove of "None"  One day somehow... turn into (created) The Universe and the Human beings.

Is it possible for "None" to do such thing?




Some people rather believe things can be created by itself from "Nothing" , and "Nothing" was created by itself?

And those people can never believe there is a (God)mother who created them?  oh i see



A: Where did you drop your hat?
B: I never dropped my hat, it just ran away by itself
A: oh i see




Is it hard to believe "Someone" who created The Universe can be exists because he exists?

Or is it easier to believe when "None" can somehow turn into the universe and all the living things + humans?




What is more logical to us?

lo_pak

This discussion will be endless...
Just like how do you prove "love"...

Just a wise remainder to those to try to prove god's existence/nonexistence in this posting,
believers won't become more "holy";
unbelievers won't become more "guilty".

If love can be proved then it's not love anymore....
If you believe, it's there...
If you don't believe, it's not there...

chunsh

「由於地心引力等定律的存在，宇宙可無中生有地自我創造」
話唔定, 神係控制住呢個"無"中生有.
chunsh 兄, ...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2010-9-2 18:21

I do believe that the universe is being created (including life forms)
but it is just contradict to the teaching itself that,
1. a universe and life forms and everything in it are so systematics that they can't exist by themselves, instead, everything was created by some group
2. assume there is only one creator, namely god. He/she/it must be much (X99999...99) times higher intelligence than us, more systematic than the universe.

3. now the teaching said, god is exist by himself??

wow

you failed

chunsh

I do have several questions for you...



If humans can be created by god, why god can't be exis ...
Davidcopperfeel 發表於 2010-9-3 02:02

wow, so long
if your logic allow your explanation, so be it

rockypath

and many discussions terminated when people ask, if god is such perfect, how can it/he/she exist  ...
chunsh 發表於 2010-9-2 12:01

I don’t think whether God(s) exists have to do anything with whether he (or they) is perfect (by human definition and standard).

Antitheists question how God can be self-exist without being created. However, antitheists themselves also have the trouble to answer why they believe 物质 can be self-exist without being created.

Let say we can accept the “Big Bang” theory and agree the universe began from an explosion. However, there many questions the “Bing Bang” theory does not answer. For example,

(1)        Where did the物质 for the “Big Bang” explosion come from? It must be there before the explosion (the beginning of our universe), agree?

(2)        The laws of physic (i.e. 萬有引力定律) must already exist before the explosion, agree? Otherwise how could the universe be formed?

(3)        How was life formed from those lifeless materials after the explosion? 進化論 does not explain the formation of life.

chunsh

I don’t think whether God(s) exists have to do anything with whether he (or they) is perfect (by  ...
rockypath 發表於 2010-9-3 16:55

喂﹐你唔好9唔搭8啦
都話左我信生物/宇宙係被created already...