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原帖由 shutterbug 於 2008-10-1 13:39 發表
To answer your questions:

- I don't if you consider this slow.  I used to drive 100km rush hour traffic per day 60% hwy and 40% city.  I cruised on hwy at around 120km/h.
- My good old Mystique V6 used to have stock Michelin's MXV4 and Falken's 512.  Of course I got less mileage with Falken cuz they're (only) slightly more grippy.  I was quite surprised with the MXV4 in terms of wet traction and tire life; they last!  Side note, I was still on the first clutch when I sold the car.

The point whether the tire is grippy or not is irrelevant.  When a tires is almost worn down to the indicator and the wear is still even, the alignment shoudl be fine.  Whether it's grippy or not, it just means the length of time that the wear shows up.  With grippy tires, the wear is obvious is a short time of course.

Not bad, $40 to put the heads on for a sanity check.  I have another Civic that probably can use an alignment


120kph is actually a very good hwy speed, for gas and tire wear etc; if u go smoothly i guess it's still better than stop and go traffic in city (as we call that serve driving, like taxi's)...

I think Michelin MXV4 is a much better tire than Falken 512's, in term of price wise it's a very economic tire but i notice it's wet / snow performance is quite horrible, especially after the 1st year / 10k. See, you have to be a good driver to be on ur first clutch at 200k? i can tell ya i have done clutch job for car as low as 50k! I guess if one drives conservatively, like if u plan ahead and always give urself more time to travel, easy on gas / brake it's always better for ur tires / brakes / gas mileage too. And if you can drive, i am sure alignment is not an issue ~ not like i have to do wheel alignment cuz i hit sth ~ curb / pothole etc, it's more like i wanna try a diff setup for the track etc...

for a conservative driver they can somewhat use any tires as their driving habits change along diff tires ~ u just go slower with not as good tires; when u dun get into trouble, like hitting a curb / pothole etc, alignment doesn't change after 3 to 4 years (some ppl proved that, like my sister ~ less than 4 years driving experience, and she doesn't drive too slow)...

yeah grippy tire will apparently worn faster and as long as they have even wear, alignment is usually not an issue BUT alignment usually shows a long term tire wear, so IF on your old set it doesn't show anything it doesn't mean in the last little while u didn't hit anything or whatsoever and knock off the alignment just a little bit; of course, from what u have said, i know u should know how to drive and avoid pothole, maybe go over speed bump "slowly", and slow down on uneven surface etc; but lots of ppl actually dun aware that! have seen corolla with less than 100k and she needs 4 new shocks!

yeah $40 to make sure everything is okay and if sth is not, either another $50 to adjust it back or u can plan ahead and save up to repair whatever that's bent; better than to ruin a set of tires then u realize after that couple hundreds now u have to spend another couple hundreds to fix your car...
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原帖由 shutterbug 於 2008-10-1 13:46 發表

For a car that I don't have any history about I'd do a WA.  On that part, I agree with you it's good to have one done.

Luckily, I own my cars since new so I know every little thing about it, how it should feel, etc.  That's why I had a problem with that used Camry cuz I don't know how a good one should feel like.


i think another lucky thing is u know about ur car and u can feel it "well" i would say; some ppl can feel sth wrong with the car, even one tire got a nail and is underinflated; some ppl just drives till the sidewall is all cut...

so how did it go with the camry? not buying? u have another civic that u would need a WA, still looking for another one? lol
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原帖由 Catpiano 於 2008-10-1 15:44 發表
Aiya ..  doesn't matter la..   we look after our own car ..  in our own ways ..   

Gum mi duck law ..   

I just follow whatever manufacture/dealer suggest ..  who wants to spend that much time to THINK about what their cars should do or not should do? who wants to spend time to try to save few hundreds or spend hundreds bucks more??  as long as it is a transportation..  + fun to drive (enjoyment! as I spend more then an hr in my car everyday)  then it is fine la..

Of course, I am referring to ~ 30yr old plus guys ..   for sure 18 yr old and 30 yr old will think different ..  I no longer DIY on my car as much as I was 18 la..  


well some time u do need to "THINK" about what your car actually needs, and some time it's actually more than just manufacturer / dealer suggested. like some fluid change interval and what i have observed after some work being done; when i tell my friend how it should be and how it is now, then they realize in some cases u actually need the service done before the "due" time ~ for example, honda's timing belt was once recommanded to be change at 144k, but i have seen quite a few ppl got theirs broken and need major work to engine and ended up getting an used motor (god knows what the prev guy did)...one story was a friend he made the app't to do his timing belt, got all the parts ready and his timing belt broke few days before the service date ~ that's SAD

since u DIY on your car u might learn more about ur car and u might know what and why it is needed?
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原帖由 kaimui22 於 2008-10-1 18:28 發表
Derek128 :

Actually I got my car used in 2006..I was driving a BMW before and that required a tire change every 3 or so years. I think the last time the Lexus got a tire change was back in 2004...so  ...


unfortunately dealer DOES look at the overall condition of your car, like how smooth the engine and transmission operate ~ they will test drive your car just like a potential buyer; they might not care about minor details but they sure take tires into one of their cost...

see, if you have seen how new tires look like, if u are looking at an used car u can probably tell if it looks worn out and will need replacement soon; ppl will try to bargain to have a new set installed or lower the purchase price and do it themselves later...

yet they might not care how much brake pad u have left, as long as it's braking properly; they might not care how dirty ur air filter is, how ur spark plugs are (unless it's mis-firing), or maybe could other things...

any abnormal noise will take into consideration...

i would say if you are trading in ur car, even a set of used tires with over 50% life is good enough for dealership; simple things like oil change / transmission fluid / brake fluid ~ anyone can tell by just opening ur hood / transfer case and rear differential fluid for your AWD / tires / body condition / interior condition and rock chipped windshield etc...

i have had a friend who has her car detailed before going in, a 2001 1.7EL about 2 years ago, she got $800 more after 7 months and she paid $250 for a full detail and drove it around for like 1/2 year ~ she rinses her car regularly so it's not too dirty...
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actually i just spent a couple hundred bucks changing the timing belt, cleaning the fans, changing the fluids, oil change..etc etc...

it's just the tires that i haven't touched yet


the last time i traded in a car, they didn't even take a test drive and offered money for it right away...actually the offered more than what the blackbook said my car would be worth
i guess they offered that much because i was buying a car from them..
all they did was print an icbc report, took a look at the car and offered a price

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原帖由 kaimui22 於 2008-10-2 00:36 發表
actually i just spent a couple hundred bucks changing the timing belt, cleaning the fans, changing the fluids, oil change..etc etc...

it's just the tires that i haven't touched yet


the last time i  ...


may i know where u traded in your last car? from all my experience they will at least drive around the block, MAYBE your car was just mint...

有咩fans要clean呀? yeah if u have just done all the fluids and timing belt, might as well change the tires and drive it for another while...what's the year of your car and mileage? seems like it's about 100k and the car should be still good for another while (now it's really subjective to your car seat issue)...
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so how did it go with the camry? not buying? u have another civic that u would need a WA, still looking for another one? lol


Not gonna get that Camry la, you scared me about the 14-hour clutch job and the gas pedal sensor!  The car is still sitting at the dealership and I don't think it's an easy sell.  It has slight clunk in the steering (possible rack or tie rods) and the clutch pedal is STIFF!  I offered 2k less than their already reduced price + fix the steering problem, but the sales manager didn't agree.

I got the Civic from my family and it's old, 95 with 225k and original clutch .  It's been in a couple of accidents (not by me of course) and I think the frame is not straight.  It's still a nice beater though (A/C's still working and good gas mileage!), nothing really failed me except for the CV joints that I replaced a few years ago, of course brakes, batt, w/pump, t-belt, tires, etc are basic maintenance.  Actually, I don't even know if a WA can fix the problem unless the frame get straighened, but I don't think I'll spend any $ on straighten it cuz it's probably not worth it.  

BTW, I've been looking for a good deal on a 07-08 Civic si sedan, not many of those around (and people ask for too much $), maybe a year or so later there will be more in the used market.

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well it just happened that a new gen camry is rare to have 5MT so i thought maybe i can look up the labor hours, i was shocked to see 14 hours so i checked both mitchell on demand and all data!

the gas pedal sensor was really stupid, $6xx for a parts that can be done in 10 mins....how could a gas pedal sensor died so easy? but i guess if EVO X can have broken gas pedal, nth can't happen!

03-05 camry have found problem with steering column and steering rack, might not be tie rods gum easy lor...

woah 95 civic with 225k and original clutch? that's crazy! i knew a guy who had 240k on his RSX-S and is still on his stock clutch, but he drives back and forth ontario at least once a year...the car has been to califonia etc...so that's very good for you!

u should check the wheel alignment, if it's only camber, camber kit fixes the problem (in most cases), if it's caster then a little bit tough, toe can easily be adjusted back!

umm watch out if u get 07 and early 08's as 3rd gear is still an issue, my friend might wanna sell his 07 csx-s, now depends what u think that's a good deal...lol
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Yeah, what's wrong with Honda?  They used to have great manual boxes in the early 90's.

Oh, there's a TSB for the 3rd gear issue (looks like they need to pull and open the tranny...ouch...if they can put it back properly the 1st time!).  Some people are still having problems after this though.

http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/m ... -2008-3rd-gear.html



CSX-S cost more than si sedan and I don't think I need the extra luxury...but it depends on how much your friend wants and some details on the car?  Any idea?

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well i know production after 200 or so in 08 has fixed the problem, at least BarF1's doesn't have that issue and funny thing is, it only happens when u drive around at low speed; i have done couple high rpm gear shift and it's smoother than low rpm lol

well honda doesn't really let u negotiate their price for Si, so after taxes and everything it's still about $30k to $31k brand new. CSX-S can easily get one for about $35k and u get extra xenon healights, leather seat, navi, fog lights, JDM body style (looks better than Si IMO, but Si looks nice with factory kit)...so IMO it's worth it...

pm u detail for that car...
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