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要靠別人供錢﹐供糧﹐供水仲o甘很多小動作, 學人反社會, 反領導
有"籌碼"先同人講數啦

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本帖最後由 ricrick 於 2011-8-24 09:56 編輯

在公平公正的社會,表達意見為何要"籌碼"?
表達意見根本是每人應有的權利
聽取民意,是政府的責任

你有這樣的想法,可反影香港已慢慢變得封閉及獨裁化了
無希望無失望

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回復 22# ricrick

Agree x 2

Public demonstration should be part of the youth, most late 60's & 70's do lack that in their growth...

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收皮啦,契弟~ 依家係大律師公會出來兜口兜面咁摑你、禿鷹曾、同所有認同核心保安區呢件垃圾嘅人兩巴呀!
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Lik 發表於 2011-8-24 09:33


何必在此跳草裙舞? 不如直接告政府顯得有誠意。 發什麼聲明? 夠料就告,那才是真正為民請命而不是令人感到有抽水的嫌疑。

我相信阿力就算不能出力,也一定會出錢支持。

我也支持他們告政府,但只是精神上支持。讓法官去判好了,總比讓每個香港人自己做法官自己隨個人喜好來裁定要好得多。

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回復  rockypath

Come on come on , let the gernade rolling for 50m and it's not even explode yet... That gernade must be an OEM made in China...
lo_pak 發表於 2011-8-24 08:32


More likely OEM made in Canada.

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回復 25# peter236

Which arsenal in Canada do produce OEM gernade? Thanks for letting me know...

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回復 19# rockypath

To be honest, 100m safety distance is way more than necessary.
30m - 50m should be appropriate in terms of providing security to the VIPs and a buffer zone for the protest group (the safety distance is just one of the many safety measures (bag check, ID check..., etc) that's been applied), providing the police force available that day at HKU...

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本帖最後由 rockypath 於 2011-8-24 12:35 編輯
回復  rockypath

To be honest, 100m safety distance is way more than necessary.
30m - 50m should be ...
lo_pak 發表於 2011-8-24 12:13


Based on what criteria you come to the conclusion that 100 meter is more than enough?

To me, 100 meter is too close based on the reasons I already stated and personal experiences. Will you object the actions of checking and securing residential buildings before and during the international summit of national leaders in the outer security zone is unnecessary? The security enforcement certainly quite 擾民 during that period of time.

Honestly speaking, I don't think the actions of HK police are unnecessarily over the limit (even though people like Lik certainly will not agree with me).

Different people have different opinions and that it is why I support the suggestion of suing the government and let the judge to make a ruling.

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回復  peter236

Which arsenal in Canada do produce OEM gernade? Thanks for letting me know...  ...
lo_pak 發表於 2011-8-24 11:57

Canada does not have much technology to produce, dues to low level of military technology knowledge.

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To me, 100 meter is too close based on the reasons I already stated and personal experiences. Will you object the actions of checking and securing residential buildings before and during the international summit of national leaders in the outer security zone is unnecessary? The security enforcement certainly quite 擾民 during that period of time.

Honestly speaking, I don't think the actions of HK police are unnecessarily over the limit (even though people like Lik certainly will not agree with me).
rockypath 發表於 2011-8-24 12:29

Obviously, you know shxt about the law. As a matter of fact, I'd say you can't judge what is reasonable and what isn't, nor do you have any common sense at all. All you know is, whatever stance that can help shine Grandfather's shoe is the stance you'll take.

http://news.mingpao.com/20110825/gaa1.htm

大律師公會轟保安區違法
5頁強硬聲明 指警設「禁區」須先刊憲

【明報專訊】警方上星期以保護副總理李克強訪港為名,在麗港城及香港大學設「保安區」限制示威,爆發法治危機。繼有學生研控告被警員「非法禁錮」,大律師公會昨發表強硬聲明,直指所謂「核心保安區」全無法律基礎,「若為了避免政治人物尷尬而限制示威,做法明顯不恰當」,公會敦促政府,全盤公開交代警方當時作出妨礙市民示威和傳媒採訪權的法理依據。

3大學願助禁錮學生

此外,除港大正協助於示威中被「禁錮」的港大學生李成康,另外兩名當時同被困後梯的理大學生黃佳鑫及嶺大學生鄧建華,理大和嶺大證實,已就事件聯絡他們的學生了解情,由學生事務處跟進。

警方發言人表示,有責任保護訪港政要安全,在進行風險評估後,警方會制訂執行安保行動,包括在保安區內實施管制措施,以確保政要的安全。警方執行細節時,會與有關地點負責保安的單位商討,每次進行大型行動後都會檢討,和考慮地點管理單位的意見。

李克強上周訪港三天,警方在他下榻的灣仔君悅酒店、進行家訪的麗港城,以及出席港大百周年慶典的港大校園俱設有「保安區」,限制市民示威和採訪(見表)。警務處長曾偉雄上周回應一名穿六四T恤的男子在麗港城被捕時說﹕「這位市民當日出現在核心保安區裏面,相信他想示威,了解後將他帶離,目的是確保受保護政要的安全。」

「倘僅為免政要尷尬 基礎不恰當」

不過,大律師公會昨發表長達5頁聲明,指特區政府有義務保障市民和平示威權利和傳媒採訪自由,指警方所謂的保安區或核心保安區,沒任何法律基礎,直指「這類字眼並無在任何香港法例中出現」。

聲明指出,警方有權引用《公安條例》,設「指定公眾地點」和「禁區」,但事前要由特首頒布及刊憲,讓市民事前清楚知道禁區界線和自律,禁區的實施亦應合乎實際需要。聲明說,若保安區是「為了避免政治人物因要面對不同意見人士發表意見而感到尷尬,這明顯無恰當基礎」。


就3名學生在港大示威被警方「禁錮」後梯,港大法律學院院長陳文敏昨出席港大開學禮後表示「連日來看到警方都出現了一些憲制問題」,他說﹕「學生手無寸鐵,警方困3人欠合理理由,不讓他們離開,令學生感覺到驚嚇,已足夠構成非法禁錮。」

他認為,警方或已超越法律賦予的權力,必須公開交代,若學生考慮從民事訴訟索償,校方會全力支持。事件中的港大生李成康表示,當日根本不知學校有設定警方所指的保安區,他說﹕「怎知幾時踏入、何時踏出了保安範圍?」因此,若警方在沒有刊憲下設定區域,他們或會就此提出司法覆核。

警接7投訴 監警會將促警交代

警方的投訴警察課表示,至今收到7宗有關李克強訪港期間的保安措施投訴。監警會主席翟紹唐表示,對警方的保安措施引起市民不滿,感到遺憾,認為不少投訴涉及公眾利益,監警會有必要跟進。他說,收到一家電視台投訴警方懷疑阻礙採訪,由於事態嚴重,已交由嚴重投訴委員會跟進。翟紹唐已要求警方盡快交代其他投訴內容,監警會將於下周四與警方舉行例行公開會議,相信屆時會有委員要求警方交代。

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