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我喺06年9月尾喺Benz買咗架二手03嘅suv,一星期後惡夢就周始,發覺架車有D問題,有幾次(冇定律,好飄忽,好難捉摸果隻)停車等轉左,架車(打冷震),踏油門都冇反應,差D俾對頭車撞,好在千均一髮架車又有番反應,一枝箭咁直標,逃過大難,好險呀!!!!咁我就即刻make appointment check 車睇下咩事,整完出嚟,行咗幾百公哩,同樣情况又出現,今次着埋check engine 燈,service advicer 話今次有code 易跟好多...,又信佢,整好出番黎,好似好咗D,冇事喇心諗,點知都係有打冷震出現,激死,又入廠,又出廠,短短一年入足八次(架車我揸咗4千公里)而家仲有打冷震(久唔久一次)而家check engine 燈又着咗,你話点算?請各位大佬教教我,多謝!!!!!

原帖由 sky 於 2008-1-14 17:32 發表
Update:同舊車部經理傾過,我覺得佢好似見怪不怪,我見過worse過你都有,佢問我想点,我話而家俾你整你又整唔到,換過架俾我囉,佢話佢揸唔到主意,要寫report通知上頭,過兩日覆你啦!!最慶就係當我傻仔,佢話同我check過今次 ...


yeah try to get another one BUT i do agree if driving too little is not a good thing, especially if u dun warm up ur car before u drive; short trip can never make ur car warms up properly
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sky: were u saying dealer had all the spark plugs replaced? or do u mean the actual spark plug wire? cuz i think ML350 has individual coil?!?!

all spark plug wire replaced


anyways, ML350 with 70k, it's not a very high mileage that the dealer would have changed all the spark plugs for you (happened to a friend's CLK430, dealer took the plug out and "cleaned" them; threw them back in and CEL came back 2 ~ 3 months after, friend recalled they said the plugs were changed; i took them out regardlessly because of the S430 story, found out they were still the old one; my friend was about to drop by the dealership with his invoice, i found that they were not even replaced! it could be a mis-communication between my friend and the dealership, or the service advisor and the tech); double check the invoice and if they were only cleaned, give all the spark plugs a try?

also IMO your car has "unreasonablelly" low mileage for the previous year, spark plugs could have been fouled with unburnt fuel (even if they were just cleaned, better if they were replaced); have seen that happened onto a lot of the european cars, they really need a good warm up / heat cycle everytime u drive it; that's why european cars can take bosch spark plugs, but totally not recommanded on japanese...

also what's the actual code u are getting? Mis-fire? Multiple Mis-fire? a good way to find out if the coil is dead is to swap it with another cylinder, the check engine code will tell you so (more accurate than measuring the resistance)...

with such a low mileage car, moisture in gas tank could be another reason; you probably won't be able to finish up a tank in a month so if u leave the tank empty (low level) for too many days, moisture in the tank (regardless which gas station u go) will cause the car to run rough, hard to start; those can cause fouled spark plugs as well?

have u tried a diff gas station? like from chevron to petro can, or from petro can to chevron etc?

i just picked up my friend's corolla, 07, 2900km since end of last april; car was not driven for about a week but it was rarely driven even tho when his mom is around; as soon as an oil change is done and i finished up that tank (1/4 left when i picked it up), put in some chevron 92 and the car is totally diff (friend's mom was using 91 from shell)...she is so happy with the diff, and was surprised just a diff gas station would make such a change (she first thought oil change is not necessary, as toyota told her it's not due if it's not 8000km)...

all in all, servicing a vehicle involved a lot of infomation from how the owner uses it (such like my friend has a S2000 but that's his weekend car, he NEVER drives it during weekday and even it's a 06 with 12k, i can see moisture has already contaminated his oil; it's only his 2nd oil change ever since he bought his car lolz)...

i guess driving distance, warm up period, choice of gas, and many other things would affect how a mechanic works on your car; 03 with 70k is not decent average mileage, but the mechanic probably wouldn't know u only have 4000km since sept 06?
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Update:同舊車部經理傾過,我覺得佢好似見怪不怪,我見過worse過你都有,佢問我想点,我話而家俾你整你又整唔到,換過架俾我囉,佢話佢揸唔到主意,要寫report通知上頭,過兩日覆你啦!!最慶就係當我傻仔,佢話同我check過今次着check engine燈原因,係你油缸太小油(俾佢check果陣有1/4缸,但着check engine light 當日有3/4缸),同埋你架車揸得太少,XXYZ@#$,佢竟然俾過咁有創意嘅答案我(不知你直接話我人衰,揸到架車都衰埋仲好啦).呢鋪睇嚟我好似入咗黑店.......

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原帖由 lerico 於 2008-1-14 10:51 發表


well... a car with high tech stuff doesn't mean it should break down or easier to break down. A engineer should built it so that it last.

Seriously, I don't think a ML350 has much high tech stuff.  ...

I'm sorry, I didn't make my point clear.  
I mean, for example, an engine is using spark plug wires and distributor compare to a car which using individual coil. The one with individual coil might be have bigger chances to fail, because there are more parts for this system.  
多個香爐多隻鬼, more stuff, more chances to fail.

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原帖由 Traum 於 2008-1-14 10:30 發表

For a period of time (starting in the late 90's?), Mercedes' built quality and reliability has dropped quite a bit, and they lost a lot of their prestige as a premium car manufacturer. The previous g ...


Agree, as long as they are no longer with Chrysler, they should be good. And I am not bashing current model, just kind of disagree to those paying premium for a MB used car that doesn't work when they can use the same amount for a brand new, reliable car from regular brand.

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原帖由 LOK 於 2008-1-14 10:26 發表

you must don't understand that a MB got a lot of high tech stuff than your odyssey.  If you drive a car that only has four wheels, a engine and a transmission, nothing elso to break down, just like a ...


well... a car with high tech stuff doesn't mean it should break down or easier to break down. A engineer should built it so that it last.

Seriously, I don't think a ML350 has much high tech stuff. I dont' think it has a superior engine management system if it needs to go back to dealership every few months, I don't think it is high tech if it doesn't work, and i don't think a car that burnt halogen headlight as high tech.

We are here talking about the fundamental stuff that are breaking down, things that are low-tech and part of "four wheels, a engine and a transmission"...

If we are talking about a radar cruise control breaking down, auto-leveling headlights, or an automatic parallel parking system, that's a different story.

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原帖由 lerico 於 2008-1-13 22:55 發表
poor mercedes...  i wonder why people are still buying them... and buying them used!! Is it just because you wanna show off you are driving a mercedes (or courtesy car from mercedes)?

My 03 Odyssey,  ...

you must don't understand that a MB got a lot of high tech stuff than your odyssey.  If you drive a car that only has four wheels, a engine and a transmission, nothing elso to break down, just like a 20 yrs old tercel or corolla.

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hm...no wonder ML used price is so low...

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