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浙江溫州列車出軌墮橋有乘客形容慘不忍睹

本帖最後由 lo_pak 於 2011-7-23 10:48 編輯

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浙江溫州晚上有兩列列車,頭尾相撞,合共有六個車廂出軌,其中兩卡墮下二、三十米的橋下,增至十六人死亡,百多人送院。事發在晚上八時半後,涉及事故的,分別是由杭州開往福州的和諧號列車,以及北京開往福州的列車,初步懷疑和諧號列車被雷電擊中,失去動力停下,被北京開出的列車,撞向車尾,導致和諧號最後兩個滿座的車廂出軌墮橋,消防及武警從車廂救出一百三十多人。一名內地記者當時在其中一個出軌車廂。他說,事發時正在睡覺,車廂突然猛烈震動,跟著漆黑一片,門窗倒置,行李亂飛。他借助手機光線,由車窗爬出,見到有其他車廂跌落橋,現場傳出呼救聲及哭聲,情況慘不忍睹。

溫州康寧醫院值班人員表示,接收了七、八十名傷者,主要是胸部及腿部骨折,有三名男子死亡。鐵道部長盛光組與兩名副部長趕赴現場,指揮救援。




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本帖最後由 lo_pak 於 2011-7-23 10:44 編輯

The system is delicate...

Blame to bad weather again?? Here we come casualties this time, right now passengers have to rehearse for collison...

Hope the injuries can be minimized...
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Do they have a better execute than lighting? It seems like this execute has been over used.

Even though I will not ignore the problems of China high speed railway, I am still a firm supporter of its building. To me, building for the future and the problems of building can be independent issues.

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本帖最後由 lo_pak 於 2011-7-23 11:25 編輯

回復 3# rockypath

I'm not saying we don't need it. Like you, I'm a firm supporter to it too...

The problem is, do we need to build it that "FAST" without proper planning? If it's in Japan, I think if one train is being hit by a lighting, all the trains on the same section of track will stop automatically, just like it's in earthquake...

IMO, this collison accident can certainly be prevented (it's a dumb human mistake)...

If safety is not the first "priority" in the design, the rests are pointless...

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回復  rockypath

I'm not saying we don't need it. Like you, I'm a firm supporter to it too...

The  ...
lo_pak 發表於 2011-7-23 11:17


I don't think we need to build this fast. I believe China only need two major connection routs for the current stage - one is Beijing-Shanghai-Guangzhou-HongKong, and the other one is Shanghai-Nanjing-ChangSha-Chengdu-ChongQing.

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本帖最後由 lo_pak 於 2011-7-23 11:48 編輯

回復 5# rockypath

For now - yes, I see the demand, for future - there should be more routes as Peter stated...

But, the project is just too fast, too fast... No one is pushing them to run the project that fast except for political reasons...

What does "FAST" mean? Advance, progress, good... You name it...

"FAST" means "NOTHING" if it's not safe... You can't compare the high speed rail in China with Shinkansen, they are obviously at different levels (One is built to "SHOW OFF", the other is built to "LAST"). For Shinkansen, you hardly hear any big accidents they have at all in their history...

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本帖最後由 rockypath 於 2011-7-23 11:56 編輯
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For now - yes, I see the demand, for future - there should be more routes as Peter ...
lo_pak 發表於 2011-7-23 11:25


I believe they should just build a few major connecting routes for now. To allow the opportunities to mature the technologies, mechanical productions, railway construction, operations and management, and market demands.

For examples, Shanghai only had two subway lines for years. One was built under Germany guidance (I believe my memory is correct) and the other one was built by its own (it had quite a few problems when it was first put into operations). When the time came, it just expanded the subway lines to more than 10 just in 3 years.

Therefore, China shouldn't expand its high speed railway networks to the current size and at the current speed. Of course, 為政績搏上位 should be the major motive.

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回復 7# rockypath

Another major concern I have is the quality for maintenance, the railway is just way too long...

It's almost certain that when time goes by more and more accidents will be ahead... The authority may not have input enough funds when the maintenance costs are already high...

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回復  rockypath

Another major concern I have is the quality for maintenance, the railway is just w ...
lo_pak 發表於 2011-7-23 11:56


Yes, that is why I said it should not be built to the size as it is now.

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回復 9# rockypath

做好本份

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