shutterbug

原帖由 BiscottiGelato 於 2009-1-6 15:54 發表


The evidence is that she claims to be my mom and cared for me for my entire life thus far. Birth certificate also indicates so, along with all official documentations, etc. Thus, there are strong ev ...

You think your method is more scientific than believing a religion?  I disagree.  Before you actually go and have DNA tested, what you think is evidence might not be real evidence.  People can give false witness just like any other beliefs.  Birth cert and docs can have human errors and such.  Baby swapped cases in hospital is not news in HK and docs can be fake.  Even if you went for a DNA test, the result is not 100% accurate.  In science, not 100% is not 100% and you can't say something that works 99.99% of the time is truth.  So unless you see yourself coming out from your mom's womb, which is kind of impossible, you have no way to determine whether you're really your mom's son.  To prove you're your dad's son, it's worse cuz you can't trace which sperm first fertilized the egg, and from whom it came?  Anyway, went too far and too exaggerated but you get the idea.  Science has been wrong a million times.

If I say not all Christians "blindly" believe, you probably disagree with me.

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Ultraman

原帖由 Catpiano 於 2009-1-6 13:44 發表
Wah ..  SB ..  u still have "AIR" to continue ??


Well . it is actually good to see more anti-God and anti-Christ ..

For 2000 plus yr ..  more  anti Christ/God .. more grow in christianility ..  ...

This is another bad example, I say... . Why do you think your peer should have no air to continue just because of you quited already? Would your Jesus have no air already? Why do you assume people are anti-God and anti-Christ? They admit that? But thanks for your true-man example, another bad example, immature Christian attitude.

shutterbug

Ultra, I don't think that was a bad example.  CP was just trying to tell me to shut up and save air to warm my belly because these issues have been brought up too many times without any constructive results (who knows though).  Save air or not is a personal preference, it's not wrong to keep the mouth shut when people are arguing.  Obvioiusly, a kid can see that there are anti Christ people in this forum and CP did not give specific names so I don't think he was a bad example.

The title of this thread is really provocative for a Christian by the way...

bluntbro

I HATE CHRISTIAN..>>>> HATER~

shutterbug

原帖由 bluntbro 於 2009-1-6 16:50 發表
I HATE CHRISTIAN..>>>> HATER~

an example of anti Christian

Ultraman

原帖由 shutterbug 於 2009-1-6 13:57 發表
CP, air or not is one thing, but I kind of enjoy thinking about the issues as these people bring them up.  It helps me to gain more knowledge in God/Bible when I have to research for an answer.  Their ...

This is a much better attitude. This is how an open discussion should be. Don't all believers were non-believers before? Isn't it a very normal process for [non-believers] -> [question period] -> [become believers]? The question period could be short or long, mild or tough. But many believers/Christians tend to lack of patience.

rockypath

原帖由 chunsh 於 2009-1-6 14:26 發表


against? this is more like a "stating the fact" sentence, while the fact is true or not is another issue



well, where do we know about christian god? its from certain believers

You seems to be loosing your objective mind. that is a "fact"?

Ultraman

原帖由 shutterbug 於 2009-1-6 15:39 發表
Ultra, I don't think that was a bad example.  CP was just trying to tell me to shut up and save air to warm my belly because these issues have been brought up too many times without any constructive r ...
The title of this thread is really provocative for a Christian by the way...

Yep, the thread title might be provocative for Christians POV, but it could also be a very good chance to answer non-believers questions and to build up more positive image.
People (non-believers) want to seek, believers/Christians can handle the chance in a positive or negative way. There are quite a bit non-believers just want to ask and seek for possible answers, they have no intention to challenge or against Christianity at all. But even there are strong "againsters", what should Christians (or so called "mature" Christians) react? Christians/believers can admit that they are "immature", not knowing well about the religion/bible/Jesus, have not enough patience or skill to answer all the questions (or "attacking" questions). But disappointingly (well, get used to already) most Christians use a over-defending mode.

rockypath

原帖由 BiscottiGelato 於 2009-1-6 16:09 發表


I stated objective reasons why I see science as a much more logical way in explaining the world and form opinions and decision in my life than religion. Instead of attacking me, my mom and also my d ...

Science has never and I doubt it would ever be able to disapprove the existence of God. To prove that, scientists must elimiate all the possibilities which is impossible and not doable.

Human being invents and products automobiles, computers and other very advanced equipments. Can we believe and accept those equipments somehow came to existence by itself and by chance? The human being and the universe is much more complex that that. Can it come to existence by itself and by chance?

chunsh

原帖由 daimo 於 2009-1-6 15:14 發表


whether you are against Christianity or not ... only you can tell.  (all i can tell you is that I'm not convinced)

Your article from Golden is against Christianity and Christians.  That's the only  ...

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