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原帖由 starbug 於 2009-1-16 23:13 發表


我同我所有嘅豬朋狗友都符合晒D教會中人講落地獄嘅條件, 咁下面一定有伴喇.
仲有, 理論上下面一定好多雞, 諗下都開心.



Half true la..  yes .. 一定有伴 .. but ..  when your friends and you die ..  say average .. 70-75 yr old .. so do those 雞 ..

Anyway . the biggest problem is .. you can't communicate with them "overthere"  ..  

Quite high cost ga .. like an HIGH RISK INDIVIDUAL JAIL CAGE !!!

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我燒定一人一隻nokia落去囉...,唔知下面係咪用GSM嘅呢??

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starbug - 我地大家落地獄一定好開心
又有煙又有酒
全部雞同AV女優係晒下面
又可以hi野點都唔死
又無神人

諗起都等唔切

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Let's "assume" (or accept) what bible said is true (for this example). God blew some air into the "doll" He made and named it as Adam, and so he was the first human with the "spirit" (that air blew into it's body by God) inside. So, Adam and Eve's offspring "automatically" have this "spirit" inside their bodies too. And therefore, it's very reasonable for us to believe that all spirits should be in the same form, no matter they become Christians or not.

Then, when people died, "Christian spirits" will go to heaven and "non-Christian spirits" will go to hell. But why those "Christian spirits" have no "feeling" at all in heaven, that means they don't feel hungry or thirsty, they don't need to eat and drink, no need to pee and poo, they don't need TV or PS3, no sex fantasy, no sickness and no pain, and not even recognize their lovers and families and friends..... ; while those "non-Christians spirits" have all kinds of "feelings" in hell, they can feel the heat of fire, suffer extreme pain from burning, feeling regret for not believing in God when they're still alive.... .?!

To compare heaven and hell, hell sounds not a nice and fun place to go. How about heaven? Well, honestly it's like a mental illness hospital, all the patients there can feel nothing else but only "happiness"?! (more like zombie) I just can't imagine how "happy" it would be.

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i wish god never created all these!
no earth, no heaven, no man, no woman, ... = no bad, no good, no trouble, ...

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原帖由 habitrailspace 於 2009-1-17 01:02 發表
i wish god never created all these!
no earth, no heaven, no man, no woman, ... = no bad, no good, no trouble, ...


if god exists, i would totally agree on you. But if god does exists, this also prove hes a big failure, or another word, hes not really a GOD

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Let’s assume God exists and He created us and the universe. He is a spiritual being and we are just human beings. Therefore, God is a much greater being than us. Then there will be a practical problem – communication with God. In order to communicate with God, He must talk to us in human language and in the terms that can make sense to human beings.

In my opinion, Hell and Heaven might not be exactly the same as described in the Bible if we just read text according to its face meaning. They are described as the way they are is to allow human to understand.

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原帖由 Ultraman 於 2009-1-17 00:58 發表
honestly it's like a mental illness hospital, all the patients there can feel nothing else but only "happiness"?! (more like zombie) I just can't imagine how "happy" it would be....


"Mental illness hosptial" -- that is a funny term to describe heaven.

What the Bible tries to tell us is that human being in fact is a spiritual being. When we die, we leave the phisical body and we return to the spiritual form (please correct me if I am wrong). Therefore, we won't live in the same way as we live on earth. In  heaven, it will be a glorious and happy life since we will living with God. In hell, we will suffer and disconnect from God.

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原帖由 rockypath 於 2009-1-17 00:41 發表
Let’s assume God exists and He created us and the universe. He is a spiritual being and we are just human beings. Therefore, God is a much greater being than us. Then there will be a practical proble ...
What the Bible tries to tell us is that human being in fact is a spiritual being. When we die, we leave the phisical body and we return to the spiritual form (please correct me if I am wrong). Therefore, we won't live in the same way as we live on earth. In  heaven, it will be a glorious and happy life since we will living with God. In hell, we will suffer and disconnect from God.

Yes, let's say God and heaven and hell and the "spirit" are something abstract and in much higher level and kind of mysteries that we human being can't really understand. Therefore, isn't it more sense making for we human tend to not believe something like this, something can't be described and understood in a more scientific and humanistic way? In a way, to question why people don't believe in God is pretty much like why people don't believe if they put a fish tank facing a particular direction in a particular room will make them rich.

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原帖由 Ultraman 於 2009-1-17 02:20 發表


Yes, let's say God and heaven and hell and the "spirit" are something abstract and in much higher level and kind of mysteries that we human being can't really understand. Therefore, isn't it more se ...


II don't have a good answer to your question. However, I can give you an example and it might help you and me to make some sense in situation like this.

I once watched a documentary and part of it is about Quantum Physic. It paints a picture that is totally beyond my comprehension and my daily life experience.  For example, it said that we can exist in more than one locations at the same time. HOW?! I don’t know.  My jaw dropped deeply when I watched it.

Something that is beyond our comprehension and which we do not encounter in our daily life does not means it does not exist or it is not true. I would doubt that I can understand Quantum Physic even if people try to explain it to me in plain language.

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