Ultraman

原帖由 mcjohnjohn 於 2009-1-6 19:17 發表

我係會用我既品格同行為去傳福音, 親身作天主既見證. 我都唔鍾意d 人拎住本"信望台"hard sell 的. 無啦啦講關帝 and 觀音仲乜?

Well, I wonder how come you're doing something against the bible (play mah jong and buy 649 and stuff, means you are somehow greedy) but at the same time you want to spread the gospel? How can you 親身作天主既見證? (I really don't want to challenge you like that, but the problem is you don't see your problem.)

Ultraman

原帖由 shutterbug 於 2009-1-6 19:07 發表

I think this depends on what is the driving force behind playing MJ or poker, etc...

For non-believer's sake it better not to play these kind of games in the public so that they don't get confused, but really MJ or poker is just a game like monopoly if you don't bet money on it.

The driving force for gambling is greed for most of the people.  There will be no casinos if you can't play real money.  If you say gambling gives you excitement that others can't, then you should donate the money you won to charity.

Yes, that's what I mean - the "drive" behind.
Why playing MJ in church is a problem while money is not involved? I've mentioned that already. Which I think church people/Christians should explain to others but not just avoid doing it.

Another real case, a Christian friend of mine won some money from lottery and wanted to donate it to his church, yet got refused to accept his "dirty money" (money from sort of gambling, not from a "right source").

mcjohnjohn

原帖由 Ultraman 於 2009-1-7 12:49 發表
Well, I wonder how come you're doing something against the bible (play mah jong and buy 649 and stuff, means you are somehow greedy) but at the same time you want to spread the gospel? How can you 親身作天主既見證? (I really don't want to challenge you like that, but the problem is you don't see your problem.)

Where in bible say believers is not eligible to play mahjong and buy mark 6?
Can you please point it out clearly?

Seems that you are the one who don't see your problem.

mcjohnjohn

原帖由 Ultraman 於 2009-1-7 13:06 發表
Why playing MJ in church is a problem while money is not involved? I've mentioned that already. Which I think church people/Christians should explain to others but not just avoid doing it.

Playing MJ in church? are you kidding?

Another real case, a Christian friend of mine won some money from lottery and wanted to donate it to his church, yet got refused to accept his "dirty money" (money from sort of gambling, not from a "right source").

Just lottery, please donate to my church then, it is always welcome. Do you want to have the bank account for donation?

Ultraman

原帖由 mcjohnjohn 於 2009-1-6 21:15 發表


Playing MJ in church? are you kidding?

I'm not kidding. Why playing MJ in church is a problem? Mind to explain why from your POV?

Just lottery, please donate to my church then, it is always welcome. Do you want to have the bank account for donation?

Yes, you think it's not a problem. Did you ask your church pastor? I would like to hear what he/she will say.

mcjohnjohn

原帖由 chunsh 於 2009-1-7 12:27 發表

tell me, in Christian/Catholic's point of view, which religion is real and 正義 besides themselves

In MY OPINION, my God (i.e. Jesus Christ) is the only real one.
正義 religion, 導人向善 is good enough. For me, I think my God will bring those non-believers to heaven if they are good and they trust God once they meet him.

mcjohnjohn

原帖由 Ultraman 於 2009-1-7 13:18 發表
I'm not kidding. Why playing MJ in church is a problem? Mind to explain why from your POV?

Yes, you think it's not a problem. Did you ask your church pastor? I would like to hear what he/she wi ...

I don't think church would welcome you to do play MJ inside. But if you really do that, I don't think you would be arrested. The problem is we should respect others, I don't think it is a good idea of hold a mass in a temple.

I DID ask Father, he told me that if I treated it as an entertainment, it was okay. Don't ask me to have any written proof.

mcjohnjohn

原帖由 Ultraman 於 2009-1-7 12:45 發表
Actually, yes, this is called and counted as greedy! (of course)
Remember? To steal one dollar is the same as to steal one million from your God's eyes. Same theory (not I said this but please refer to your bible), want to win one dollar is the same as want to win one million, it's still count as greedy.
Of course you can ignore what others comment you and you can keep living in your own world.

Would it be greedy if I want to earn more money from job as I am trying to steal money from my boss?
Your world is definitely different from mine.

starbug

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