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    It's tough but not "mission impossible" la...For new grad, most of us will live  ...
fibbi 發表於 16-7-2010 16:00

Remember...some fresh grads need to repay student loans too...
if your family has enough money to pay for u to attend University or College...and can live with the family without paying any 家用 to them...it's another story..but for many of my frds (maybe I am not rich and dunno much rich friends...) they have to work while study and also need to pay for their own tuition and give 家用 to support their family... After graduated.. they probably can earn about $2000, but have to repay back the student loans..with interest of coz..and still need to give 家用 (1/3 of their income) to support their family, transportation costs.etc....I think it's kinda HARD to save enough money for downpayment before 30. *just my opinion*

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回復 160# 大C姐

I see. I had in mind slightly bigger places, but fair enough you can get a 1 bedroom place for around 300k.

As for your suggestion on saving move money, I think it's better to see how one can earn more.  I don't think its unreasonable for a couple to have a gross income of $140k if  both are educated.

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回復  大C姐

I see. I had in mind slightly bigger places, but fair enough you can get a 1 bedroom p ...
biggie 發表於 2010-7-16 17:24



    如果想大D就可能真係去Surrey囉﹐好多young couple都選摘搬去Surrey因為有skytrain﹐40min去到downtown﹐其實快過渣車。

同埋600幾700尺都好見洗﹐好多香港人一家大細都係住咁上下。上車我覺得夠大有餘。

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我唔知可唔可以咁講啦﹐但係其實移得民呢班都唔係真係窮得去邊﹐點都有樓渣手。若然供到仔女讀書﹐你頭幾年做嘢自給自足對父母嚟講已經OK。你俾"家用"都係另一種儲錢o者。
大C姐 發表於 16-7-2010 17:01


依D咪就係無負擔既80後~佢地係可以供到樓~

但其實係Vancouver....有好多小康之家既移民父母,,係HK賣左層樓放棄HK份工囉住筆錢移民左過黎 (特別係投資移民)...黎到要羅舊錢出黎開生意/投資~ 到最後都唔會有好多剩~ 而且唔係個個父母都甘好彩搵到份好工~ 過多幾年真係乜都無剩~ 做仔女生性既會幫補家計~讀書借錢靠自己~將來畢業搵到份好工自己還student loan... 俾錢屋企等屋企生活好D~ 但依家溫哥華既樓市...對於依一類既80後....係好難草到錢俾首期供樓架~

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回復 163# 大C姐

even for a younger couple, if both are working, a modest figure of $100k is not far fetched right? I think couples should be looking at 400k+ houses so they get at least 2 bed rooms.

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依D咪就係無負擔既80後~佢地係可以供到樓~

但其實係Vancouver....有好多小康之家既移民父母,,係HK賣左 ...
小叻 發表於 2010-7-16 17:39



當然﹐呢個世界有D困難家庭﹐中學畢業一個人養7個人﹐有爸媽有細佬妹.... 不過呢D家庭點去到邊都afford唔到買樓﹐which我覺得租樓都唔洗死。

最緊要係自己知自己事﹐有幾多能力同有無back up plan。

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本帖最後由 BiscottiGelato 於 2010-7-16 18:01 編輯

Sometimes I see that people view buying a place as some virtuous financial goal of a life-time. 上車 is viewed as some sacred achievement by some. It's okay to adopt such a viewpoint, but only if one recognizes the countering viewpoints. From my narrow observations, there are usually 2 reasons for a single individual (not maried/common-law etc) to buy a place
1. Housing is an awesome investment in the long term (20 years - 30 years time frame), even if one'd have negative real rental yield (minus inflation, interest and other maintenance and management costs). Capital appreciation will always trump the negative yield.
2. Owning a place and moving out to live by oneself is a need. As soon as you can afford it one shall do so right away.

For 1, I personally think that people are influenced by the prior generation, and history of the past 20-30 years into thinking that real estate is the ultimate investment in terms of risk/return. For most people that are born post 1950's, housing boom have been with them through-out all their lives. They have gotten accustom to the boom and think that perpetual housing price increase, on the long term, it's a law of physics. So it doesn't matter even if one have bought at peak. They'd think that any counter example are exceptions, not the norm, and will surely catch back up if the investment horizon is sufficiently long. I personally have reservation in this line of view point.

For 2, I personally think that living by oneself is a luxury, not a need. If buying a place and renting it out is not an attractive investment, then buying a place and living by oneself is simply a luxury spending. The money that's sunk in interest, maintenance, property tax obviously would be pricey, but at least can be viewed as a cost of investment. But compared to living with parents or siblings, you are basically doubling all the other costs, on things such as buying groceries, phone bill, TV bill, internet bill, etc etc. Those are definately avoidable luxury spending that doesn't contribute to the investment in the hope of real estate capital appreciation.

Obviously, different people value things differently. I myself, as a single individual, just doesn't find the need to buy a place, nor do I think it's a good investment. I consider it as a very overpriced luxury item that I don't want to spend my money on. So it's not 易上車 or 難上車. To me, it's just 唔低買. In such light, the topic of the thread already seemed to be skewed towards the side that "one must buy a place, it's either u can afford it or not afford it". Which IMO is just very narrow visioned, biased and simply incorrect.

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Remember...some fresh grads need to repay student loans too...
if your family has enough money to  ...
小叻 發表於 2010-7-16 17:16



    我想知點解會覺得1/3人工做家用夠呢? $2000/3 = $700都唔夠﹐養車都未必得啦﹗我覺得若然家境真係咁清貧就努力D賺錢﹐咪鬼諗買樓住啦。


無人話fresh grad要諗買樓﹐如果經濟係首要生活條件﹐做三五年嘢都唔會淨係得$2000一個月卦? 到時再諗都未遲。

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依D咪就係無負擔既80後~佢地係可以供到樓~

但其實係Vancouver....有好多小康之家既移民父母,,係HK賣左 ...
小叻 發表於 2010-7-16 17:39


如果係要幫保家計,仲要還student loan嘅,要買樓,真係無咁易架喇,唯有等結婚兩個人一齊供啦。

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回復 159# biggie


    Not every fresh grad able to work on BIG company to get $50K to start.
I know there are smaller company pays much lesser than that. But I would say $40K is avg for fresh grad (for programmer).

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