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put it this way, say if you get a set of cheap 205/55R16, $600; if you get a nice set of 205/55R16, $900 (or less i think); with that extra $300 you pay, it's just like buying insurance, with the extra performance, you get better protection from skidding and with the extra money that you SAVED (from buying the cheaper tire), will that be enough for you to skid an inch and rear ended someone and only causing bumper damage (at least $300 per bumper?!), or if you slightly kiss a curb ($90 for alignment + possibility of blowing up a tire, bending a rim, screwing up the lower control arm or even strut / knuckle etc)?

it's just like braking power, who needs those fancy brembo or 4 pot or 2 pot or even disc brake? old school brakes will still slow down the car, or the cheapest pad / rotors can still take the car into a complete stop (it's just a matter of time / distance etc)....

and IF, say you drive 50 or 60k in a year, and you need tire replacement every year; with the mileage you put on the road, you know the chance for running into accident or whatever is higher than those who drives 7000km a year (car is probably park more than drive); so it's worth it ~ but even if you drive 7000km a year, that same amount is splitted into 8 years and $100 a year on tires ain't too bad isn't it? if one can't even afford maintaining the car properly (i have seen ppl who kept buying used tires for cheap), one shouldn't be driving?!

I have seen too many times people crashed their car simply because of bad tire traction / inflation or ****ty brakes (well even a perfect driver will make mistake)? that's why i learnt from working in a autobody shop for 5 years, and over 10 years in this trade....
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字典哥, for the most part, I agree with what you are saying ga. If the price difference is small, why bother with the cheaper stuff, especially when safety is concerned, and the margin of error is small?

I generally don't like Michelin tires all that much not because they are bad tires (although a good number of them, esp in OE applications, are crap), but because they are vastly overpriced. Quite a few years ago when I was tire shopping, I was considering the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S because of its very positive review. The moment I started looking at prices, however, my jaw just dropped -- the Pilot Sport A/S in my size was around $240, while the Falken ZE-512 was a mere $125. Was the Michelin a better tire? Most probably. But was it almost 100% better? I wouldn't think so.

Another consideration I had at the time was, the Pilot Sport had a longer tread life than the ZE-512 did. However, since I don't usually drive that much, the longer tread life of the Pilot Sport probably means it'll last me more than 6 years' worth of driving. Given that rubber hardens and lose grip over time, I'd rather buy something with less tread life and replace it in the 4th or 5th year at most. So for me, one benefit of the more expensive Pilot Sport didn't really matter.

On the other hand, when I was winter tire shopping last year, I went ahead with the Michelin X-Ice Xi2 even though it was more expensive than many of the other models available. My rationale here is that in the dry (even in an emergency), the safety margin of an above average tire (as opposed to a higher end tire) is still sufficiently large. In poor road conditions -- and especially in the winter -- that margin becomes much smaller, so I'd rather pay more to maximize it.

We all know the benefits of multi-pot brakes la. As good as the massive single piston system I have on my car, I totally wish it was something more, even if it were only a dual piston setup in front!

-Lik

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Thank you all for you answers

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本帖最後由 chocolatebean 於 2009-9-24 15:35 編輯

I need some new tires for my mazda3 5dr, 205/50R/16...my fd recommended "sumitomo htr+", anyone know if they are any good?

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you want summer or all season?

stock mazda3 should be:

15-inch:
Width - 6.0 inches
Offset - 52.5mm
Tire size - P195/65R15 H-rated

16-inch:
Width - 6.5 inches
Offset - 52.5mm
Tire size - P205/55R16 H-rated

17-inch:
Width - 6.5 inches
Offset - 52.5mm
Tire size - P205/50R17 V-rated

you're sure you have 16" or 17" wheels?

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15# shutterbug


I have 16", well i went to costco to get my new tires yesterday, hope they are good la...

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