szasz

不介意我在這裡發表嗎

the thing is when they first came into your personal space the reason was:

a. seasonal rodent growth
b. the neighborhood ur in
c. climate changes
d. no reason

once you figured that out and started taking actions towards it

at sum point they really drove me nuts cause they waited till night time to come out (or kept waiting till i turned the light off) and were making all these noise siksiksaksak (no idea where they were, what they were doing, took so much time to investigate) n when they started jaywalking across the living room during the day when ppl are still in (instead of the sidewalk along the walls, behind the cabinet etc) & yeah city bylaw already says: no defecate, urinate, nor expectorate on property ...

once u spend so much time cleaning up after them u will see things from their perspectives n understand (as long as they are not mutant rats from Iran) and also they always wanted to be hidden in the dark n away from sight of human, and light. and every move, even very subtle move that we human makes can create extreme fear and alertness in them

but once you 'make friends' with them and bridge that gap, at least for me that was a crucial step
and imo avoid killing as much as possible (that was my previous approach that I m most comfortable with up to the present)

TurboDoe

Thx Szasz for ur input. May I ask how you finally made those little creatures disappear? Thx

szasz

1. listen & move quietly, locate their base
2. observe their routes, derive entry n exit pts from there
3. clean up their smell, droppings and urine included
4. once u done dat ur now real close to the ground and u smell n see n move like they do, then you will know what they were eating (e.g. 餅乾碎）

szasz

Quest老友的approach我下不了手
因為聯想到自己正在準備食大餐之前的死
其實四圍的mouse trap都是下毒藥的
我見過allegedly中了毒後的死屍乾了像塊標本
我個人就只會執屎抹尿好像做保姆
最慘的時候是上網翻查為甚麼老鼠要加個'老'字

Quest

Sorry folks, as much as my religion does not allow me to kill, I have no choice but to deal/handle these rodents the "proper" way.

rats/mice carries a lot of parasites and diseases, and if they have fleas, they might even carry the virus similar to black death (I know it's been long gone now since the last outbreak bit the virus still around), and I don't welcome rodents such as these and share the same living area with them.

With that I'd have no choice but to rid of them. So far, there's not such thing called "humane way" to deal with rats/mice simply because they breed so quickly (a pair of brown rats can have 2000litters every year!)

Spring trap is the only way to go (in my case) although you may be able to get those HK style rat traps in Chinatown...my sis did it once with those rat traps and caught one but didn't know how to dispose them of, ended up being a mess.

Anyways: you won't be so "kindhearted" when your living quarters are invaded by rats. Trust me.

Q.

TurboDoe

Thx Quest. Thx for ur input! So u used Victor brand spring traps? Used several at a time and then checked on them from time to time. If the spring trap caught one, disposed and washed/reused that spring trap again? And also without sealing off the point of entry? After a while, they did not come back at all? Pls advice.

Quest

Yup!

You just need to first deal with the "moving" ones that frequently comes in-n-out of the house, rid of them first (using spring traps, I know it's messy but you throw them away one-by-one when they are "filled up")..then after a week of no spring-trap activities, you then proceed to sealing off the hole.

Also: inspect it from the outside to see if there's any holes or crevices big enough for them to get in-n-out. Seal those holes/cracks accordingly.

Yeah, rats are difficult to deal with for they will "memorise" your inside house surroundings and work their way through to seek food and shelter. So you have to give them 3 ~5 days to let themselves off guard if you are to set spring traps.

Remember: for rats: use cut chicken hotdog sausage (slightly cooked) smeared with peanut butter on the spring trap. Guaranteed success!

(*was taught by my former manager whose parents live in the interior in a farm*)

Quest

Also: I would not immediately/casually resort to using poisons or chemicals of any kind...humans get affected by it if not handled properly.

Traps are messy but still get the job done chemical/poison-free way...you just have to learn to become "cold-hearted" when dealing with rodents.

Q.

fatman-w

Go to the dollar shop, buy the glue boards & the bottles of red hot (pepper?) spice (<$10.00). check the droppings, sweep clean, place glue boards. If mouse caught, throw  a piece of newspaper on top & throw it away, see nothing, touch nothing.
Locate its possible entry points (gaps between pipes?), sweep clean, fill the gap, sprinkle the spice around it.
Never use poisons, I have seen dead mice near air diffusers in the form of powder (aged) in restaurants.