yes ar.. for me, I don't care much about 西臧人. ok.. What they are looking for is separation, to have their own government (not necessary democracy), just purely for political power. Well, you can say yes or no, depending on your point of view. And 西臧人 is just an ethic group. I don't support any ethic group separate from a united country. e.g. Quebec ppl seperate from Canada.. or e.g. Chinese in BC try to seperate Richmond from Canada. lol. They kill cops and so as civilians.
So, their reason is not strong & valid enough to pursuade me to support them.. so i don't care about them. It is just 民族主意
For the students, yes.. there was 放火燒車﹐ 向軍警投石. but they were targetting the 軍警 or government, not civilians. That's totally different. and what they are asking is for democarcy for all Chinese, (including all ethic group).
The level are totally different la.
By the way, may I know how old are you? were you in front of TV when 64 happened?
For the students, yes.. there was 放火燒車﹐ 向軍警投石. but they were targetting the 軍警 or government
in canada or US, the people who did that will be shot by the cops for no mercy
and remember, 軍警 also have family to wait for them to come home after off-duty. So I think your argument is not right
I wasn't going to reply until I get home, but this is too much. Soli, shame on you for trying to tarnish the June 4 students image and justify the sins that the Chinese Liberation Army has committed.
The World saw the lights turning off in Tiananmen, and heard guns firing afterward. You and I may not have seen it ourselves, but countless number of people most certainly did. What happened at Tienanmen was obvious -- the army open fired on the students.
Besides, does it really matter whether the army started killing people (students, peasants, and protesters alike) in Tiananmen or outside? The same batch of students died as a result of their peaceful protests. Many more outside Tiananmen have also died as a result of the army opening fire on them or otherwise beating them to death. Central Government declared the students peaceful protests and demonstrations as treasonous long before any troops mobilized to Beijing. The blood stains and sins on the Central Government's hands can never be washed clean, especially when they continue to deny of the massacre's existence.
And when you look at what is happening now in Sichuan, and compare to what happened in Tianenman, isn't the government doing exactly the same thing? Silence the press. Threaten the victims. Lie about the truth. The Central Government is doing exactly the same thing it has done 20 years ago when sins are committed by party officials.
Last but not least, don't try to divert the attention away from the completely unacceptable words from this 9up Bowtie. His unacceptable and completely irresponsible words are only trying to justify the unforgivable. And to hear him say that it is ok to sacrifice human lives in the name of economic gains is disgusting and despicable.
Simple question.. Soli, did you follow 6.4. incident? Did you join the 1Million march? Where were you and what were you doing at that time?
For me, I watched, I marched, I followed, I cried. I missed the TV scene showing Tank drove on people which my mom watched it life. I cired, my family cried, my classmates, my teachers, all felt sad. It was undoubtful and non-arguable who's right, who's wrong in any prespective. and that's why I am here in Canada, and I think for most of us. The deep fear won't go away. The respect of the death will always in my heart.
發表於 2009-5-14 10:00
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