Nam

5# soli


I posted this at midnight 3 am something, so I missed the word "majority".. because I was so sleepy...

So I apologize if I offended anybody or you here.

What I mean is this really represent most honger who still fight for 6/4.

somewhereintime

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Hay, this forum is only for people still have their conscience intact.
You are neither invited or welcome here, so beat it

Lik

若誰勝誰是對，我們也會不斷抗爭至最後一口氣，因我們確信是非黑白與道德不容扭曲。
這是非常愚蠢的一件事情，因為我們正與錢作對。但若不能堅守這最基本的黑白是非，我不知怎去教育我們的下一代正確的道德觀念：我不能叫他們做一個正直的人，因我們可因金錢委曲，因我們可向強權低頭，因我們可面對真理視而不見。

我不能靠邊站，因我還有腰骨，我不是任強權金錢勢力改變身姿的軟體動物。
MoiRhapsody 發表於 2009-6-13 10:27

講得甚好，中晒小弟嘅心聲。

-力

rockypath

I believe 6.4 will not be forgotten. However, I also believe is will take at least another 30 years (or more) before the truth will be released and people can make a more objective judgement on the incidence since people will be less emotionally attached to it and more information will be available.

Why? It is just a general political practice. How many national secrets were classified by the US government and its courts to be kept secret for 50 years or more?

somewhereintime

If the military action were necessary and the political decision  were appropriate,
and really supported by the public, the CCP would boast and celebrate with people.
Not hiding in their bunkers and suppressing all the people's voice for 20 years.
I do not agree with CCP,  but I never think of toppling the regime, it is the people's
decision  and right who should be their "savior" as in the National Anthem.
Why there are always people telling us that  people in China are stupid and do not
deserve democracy?  Canada is  not performing well in economy,  and the elections
cost  us so much; should we just abolish democracy and turn to Communism  now?
I have nothing to do with either the  CCP or their opponent. But I have decided that
I could not live without democracy.
I met a respectable lady and retired Chinese teacher Mr. Chu(with AM1320) at 6.4 vigilance, the lady has been suffering from a tumour  in her brain that she is unable to see for a year.
She told us that it is her duty as a Chinese to tell the young generation what we witnessed in Hong Kong and China in 1989, we cannot just keep silent and allow the tragedy to " Fade Out".   Time will be our witness, and the history owe us the truth.
Heroes in Tienanmen, you are not forgotten.















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rockypath

If the military action were necessary and the political decision  were appropriate,
and really supported by the public, the CCP would boast and celebrate with people.
Not hiding in their bunkers and  ...
somewhereintime 發表於 2009-6-13 18:06

You are just politically naive.

History will not be forgotten. Do you know why that any history textbook normally will not include any political topic happened within 50 years?

Nam

所謂歷史／正史，從來也是贏家寫他／她想記的觀點！
無奈卻是古今中外的鐵道理！

唉，最近，嘗試從在客觀的角度去想，好了，每個大國必然走過類似的路，是的，經濟的確在短時間內追上甚至是爬過全世界！甚至連世界知名的經濟學家們也說中國是唯一能夠帶全世界走出這經濟困局！

國民富起來了（最少是大部份），是否能把金錢放在人民的教育上和官僚架構上呢? 或許，我真的很幼稚，太utopia 心態，這個世界沒有所謂心身富庶的國家！

每當我問這愚蠢的問題是，某人叫我看看美國，我.......無言了！難道我得接受現實，把這些傷痛藏在心底?有人說，國家總會有天面對這事，那時當這代經歷過六四的人去了，這些激烈的情感淡掉了，自然會面對，不知道我能否看到這一天呢?

rockypath

所謂歷史／正史，從來也是贏家寫他／她想記的觀點！
無奈卻是古今中外的鐵道理！

唉，最近，嘗試從在客觀的角度去想，好了，每個大國必然走過類似的路，是的，經濟的確在短時間內追上甚至是爬過全世界！甚至連世界 ...
Nam 發表於 2009-6-13 22:18

I am not as pessimistic as you are and I believe one day most of the truth will be released.

Why? There are so many witness both local Chinese people and foreign reporters (at least the PLA themselves are the witness). In addition, other sources are available as well but not yet to be released. For example, pictures taken by US’s military satellite (it must be much clearer than Google Earth).