maanmo

to answer the question in this thread

no DSLR will slow down  or speed up a motivated new hand on his way to  a pro hand
think of grabbing that camera the way clinton grabs a girl
if you like it , grab it

to play with photography,  dont hesitate to grab that DSLR, the newer the better
the more expensive the better, grab a new one every year


however to learn photography,  all you need is a compact camera
with  a/f/iso  manual  focus  wide angle,  10x zoom  , a new one starts at $250 or may be $200
you can use this as a learning camera

DSLR are not learning cameras,  they are working cameras for the pro
and playing cameras for the enthusiasts
that is why DSLR are chosen by the pro's and enthusiasts, quietly , they think, they look  and then grab you
the master makes his choice   .. no questions asked

Ultraman

First, a "new hand" to DSLR is different to a "new hand" to photography.
Second, there are prosumer cameras for new hand to advanced hand; as well as DSLR for new hand to professionals. I really don't see why a new hand shouldn't get a beginner level DSLR to start. Since prosumer and DSLR is so much different, in terms of technique and enjoyment and more.

maanmo

a new hand is entitled to play with any DSLR , all are good
if you like it grab it

MoiRhapsody

you still don't get it.
and now you try to define the meaning of "new hand"
this is going to be vain.
at the end of the day, size does matter, G11 is probably the maximum size someone could bear to carry it with them.

MoiRhapsody

其實...有錢咪玩乜都得囉~~~夠見過人乜都唔識買1D當傻瓜機....錢之嘛~~~~
如果真係唔清楚/新手，prosumer絕對係 Bang for your buck.
如果係想入SLR門檻，就已經知道自己想要D乜同有邊幾部目標。

Lik

I really don't see why a new hand shouldn't get a beginner level DSLR to start.
Ultraman 發表於 2010-1-30 22:33

Dude,

You know, I just find it funny that you keep arguing for argument's sake.

Of course there is nothing wrong with a newbie getting a brand spanking new entry level dSLR to play with. There is nothing wrong with a new (motorcycle) rider wanting to pick up a litre sportsbike or a big hog after they received their brand spanking new licence. For that matter, there is nothing wrong with a newbie driver going to the Mercedes dealers to pick up an AMG C63 as their first car either.

The only "problem" with this approach, going the brand spanking new route, is, buying new and jumping into the deep end first costs money, and for most people, moula is a limited commodity. Of course, there are lots of people in this world with more $$ than they have brains...

So ya, go buy new and don't look back~!

-Lik

Ultraman

Talk about whatever meaning "newbie" or "new hand" is, even one has absolutely no knowledge in photography, must he/she go to read some books or study a course first before buying a camera to start? I don't see why one can't do both at the same time.

And it's not because of money. Maybe you are one of those people who think they can play women if they are rich! Money is just one thing. I don't see if one is rich and so he/she can buy any expensive gear/toy...etc whatever he/she like without a sincere heart can really learn a thing.

快樂牛郎

Talk about whatever meaning "newbie" or "new hand" is, even one has absolutely no knowledge in photography, must he/she go to read some books or study a course first before buying a camera to start? I ...
Ultraman 發表於 2010/1/30 23:17

Since a newbie doesn't know any better, it's out of good intentions to recommend the most economical choice for him/her.  Sometimes it takes a lot of trial and error to find the model(s) you like.  I had bought more than 10 models in the last year before settling on what I want to use on a daily basis.

Ultraman

Dude,

You know, I just find it funny that you keep arguing for argument's sake.

Of course there is nothing wrong with a newbie getting a brand spanking new entry level dSLR to play with. There is n ...
Lik 發表於 2010-1-30 23:13

Don't be extreme.
You guys can suggest a newbie to buy an used DSLR, a beginner level one, why it must be a brand new top model of the line in the first place in mind?!

Maybe people are just jealous. And/or maybe people have been going thru so much hard learning time from the beginning of their photography lives. The fact is, unlike olden days when people learning Kung Fu, which they might have to break thousands of walnuts to start as basic skills. Time changed, and keeps changing. Why there is a more efficient way to learn photography but people seem too jealous about it?!

Ultraman

Since a newbie doesn't know any better, it's out of good intentions to recommend the most economical choice for him/her.  Sometimes it takes a lot of trial and error to find the model(s) you like.   ...
快樂牛郎 發表於 2010-1-31 00:24

Yes, you're right. But it does apply to newbies to professionals. Were you a newbie, advanced amateur, semi professional, or professional, at the time you kept changing 10 cameras last year?