kipposhi

you don't need to study environmental science to know the truth.  Evidence from climategate scandal is sufficient.

Ovaltine

you all notice the skunks these few winters are digging holes for food in the front lawn? well these skunks are not hibernating and are out searching for food. the winter in vancouver is not cold enough anymore.

there will always be one year of cold winter, the next would be warm (this year). Remember as little kids, the summer was so cold in Vancouver, we wouldn't run around in shorts? now our summer is like cali, back in the 70s. also notice more rain storms? sign of tropical weather in the north.

大C姐

you don't need to study environmental science to know the truth.  Evidence from climategate scandal is sufficient.
kipposhi 發表於 2010-2-3 02:11

都唔咁講呀﹐就係坊間實在太多唔同意見﹐唔同research好多都有茅盾。我呢D唔識science係唔知信得邊個"專家"﹐要有個底先消化到街外D scandal。

-- 凍到突點大C姐

habitrailspace

咁都俾你發現? 我喺屋企都要戴翻個bra先...

大C姐 發表於 2010-2-3 00:52

kipposhi

都唔咁講呀﹐就係坊間實在太多唔同意見﹐唔同research好多都有茅盾。我呢D唔識science係唔知信得邊個"專家"﹐要有個底先消化到街外D scandal。

-- 凍到突點大C姐

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大C姐 發表於 2010-2-3 08:07

That is because the emails from warmist researchers showed they altered the data on global warming search.

Emails:

"I think the only thing that counts is numbers. The media is going to say '1000 scientists signed' or '1500 signed'. No one is going to check if it is 600 with PhDs versus 2000 without. They will mention the prominent ones, but that is a different story." - Joseph Alcamo, Lead Author IPCC (2001, 2007)

"I've just completed Mike’s Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) and from 1961 for Keith’s to hide the decline." - Phil Jones, Director Climatic Research Unit (CRU)

"...it would be nice to try to "contain" the putative "MWP", even if we don't yet have a hemispheric mean reconstruction available that far back." - Michael Mann, Lead Author IPCC (2001)

"I can’t see either of these papers being in the next IPCC report. Kevin and I will keep them out somehow – even if we have to redefine what the peer-review literature is!" - Phil Jones, Director Climatic Research Unit (CRU)

"I'm getting hassled by a couple of people to release the CRU station temperature data. Don't any of you three tell anybody that the UK has a Freedom of Information Act!" - Phil Jones, Director Climatic Research Unit (CRU)

"The two MMs have been after the CRU station data for years. If they ever hear there is a Freedom of Information Act now in the UK, I think I'll delete the file rather than send to anyone." - Phil Jones, Director Climatic Research Unit (CRU)

"...If the RMS is going to require authors to make ALL data available - raw data PLUS results from all intermediate calculations - I will not submit any further papers to RMS journals." - Ben Santer, Lead Author IPCC (1995)

"The fact is that we can't account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can't." - Kevin Trenberth, Lead Author IPCC (2001, 2007)

Subject: John L. Daly [Skeptic] Dead

"...this is cheering news!" - Phil Jones, Director Climatic Research Unit (CRU)

"Next time I see Pat Michaels at a scientific meeting, I'll be tempted to beat the crap out of him. Very tempted." - Ben Santer, Lead Author IPCC (1995)

You may want to download the emails hacked from University of East Anglia's Climatic Research Unit and read it yourself.

http://junkscience.com/FOIA/FOI2009.zip

East Anglia Emails (Searchable)

快樂牛郎

Now we know that they inflated the numbers.  But does that mean there's no global warming then?

somewhereintime

Exaggerated by some interested groups to make money 26# 快樂牛郎

kipposhi

Now we know that they inflated the numbers.  But does that mean there's no global warming then?
快樂牛郎 發表於 2010-2-3 14:21

The warmists are supposed to prove that there is global warming.  But it is not supposed that other people try to disprove the existence of global warming.  That is the rule in the field of science.

快樂牛郎

I am not interested in Science.  I am only interested in Logic.

somewhereintime

Global warming is bad, I agree.
End of the world? nah, How about another flood or Ice Age?