somewhereintime

少年十五二十時曾經对 共產主义 滿怀理想！以意是建立 烏托邦 的基石！

如今年紀一把對 共產主義 的理想徹底幻滅！
老友四號 發表於 2009-7-17 21:19

Same here, I read most of the works by Karl Marx, Frederic Angels, Lenin and Mao's,
and a lot of documents translated from Russian back in 60-70's, 2,000 books in all. My uncles from both of my parent side were lifetime Communists,  my father's brother was killed counter combating Japanese and my mother's in-law participated in Liberating Hai-Nan. I was activitist in Protect Our Diu-Yu Islands, Anti-Corruption, Youth Against Drug  ..... Hong Kong student movements back in early 70's.
I witness the corruption and fall of Communist Empire since then.
It is nothing wrong with the original communism ideology, I actually admire the early CCP martyrs killed by Chiang,  it is the corruption and  dictatorship after the CCP took over regime that change me forever.

rockypath

Same here, I read most of the works by Karl Marx, Frederic Angels, Lenin and Mao's,
and a lot of documents translated from Russian back in 60-70's, 2,000 books in all.  ...
somewhereintime 發表於 2009-7-18 06:22

If you know so much about communism, can you explain to us what communism is and why it was once popular?

rainbow-davie

Same here, I read most of the works by Karl Marx, Frederic Angels, Lenin and Mao's,
and a lot of documents translated from Russian back in 60-70's, 2,000 books in all. My uncles from both of my paren ...
somewhereintime 發表於 2009-7-18 06:22

既然你對共產主義有深入認識. 有個問題, 共產主義本身係唔係排斥民主, 理論上..應該共產主義比資本主意更擁抱民主.. Hmmm

tiffiant

what is this for?

somewhereintime

23# rainbow-davie

Communism at its ideology state is what Confucius and Dr. Sun Yat Sen advocated:
The Great harmony (Tai-Tung),
The State belongs to all citizen
it is our ultimate goal for 5,000 years as Chinese
Mencius pledged:
The People are precious
The Social Structure go second
The Head of State only plays a small role
It was the corruption of CCP and tyrannical political system  that changed me

peter236

23# rainbow-davie

Communism at its ideology state is what Confucius and Dr. Sun Yat Sen advocated:
The Great harmony (Tai-Tung),
The State belongs to all citizen
it is our ultimate goal for 5,000  ...
somewhereintime 發表於 2009-7-18 12:41

Please explain to us why corruption in democratic India is worse than in China.

somewhereintime

Power and rank hierarchy corrupt politicians.
In PRC, there is absolute power not to be challenged.
In democratic India, the mid-level politicians are not educated enough
to understand the substance of politic and their mission as governors,
they merely use their position to grab money and, well, more power.
Similar situation happen in China as well

rockypath

23# rainbow-davie

Communism at its ideology state is what Confucius and Dr. Sun Yat Sen advocated:
The Great harmony (Tai-Tung),
The State belongs to all citizen
it is our ultimate goal for 5,000  ...
somewhereintime 發表於 2009-7-18 12:41

You just showed that you know nothing about communism. If you had read 2 books (not talking about 2000 copies) about communism. You definitly would give a much meaningful answer or definition than this. Someone already mentioned about one of the key definitions about communism and you just didn't get it.

You don't even make an effort to google about communism before telling people how well you know about it.

Give you one more chance. Will you mind to tell us what communism is?

Lik

Rocky dude,

You are not somebody's teacher here. We don't have to prove to you what we know what we don't know and explain stuff at your command. The communism ideology itself is no worse than any other political ideal, yet in the hands of the CPC, it has turned into a means to exercise and retain absolute power above all else. If you fail to see and understand that yourself, I don't see how you can pretend to know communism at all.

-Lik

rockypath

Rocky dude,

You are not somebody's teacher here. We don't have to prove to you what we know what we don't know and explain stuff at your command. The communism ideology itself is no worse than any ot ...
Lik 發表於 2009-7-18 15:56

It is very funny that you dare to post your opinion here and do not dare to accept some meaningful challenges. It is not even a challenge. If someone had read 2000 books about communism, he definitely can be my teacher and I am listening to his teaching – a more meaningful answer.

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