Lik

Safety features were not taken out. Why would anyone "take out" safety features?
Safety measure jus ...
peter236 發表於 2011-7-25 14:24

Previous news reports have already revealed that Grandfather has reduced the safety margins imposed by Germany and Japan in order to raise the top speed la. How different is it for Grandfather to further eat into any additional safety measures in exchange for further benefits of some sort (eg. cost savings).

Eat shxt la, PK!

-Lik

peter236

Previous news reports have already revealed that Grandfather has reduced the safety margins imposed ...
Lik 發表於 2011-7-25 15:35

The safety margins they were taking about was related to operational speed safety margin, not some parts that you can take out of the train, therefore not related to money at all. Trains operate a certain % below maximum tested speed.
But this line is not even the 300km highspeed line.
This line is 200km, and the location of incident is quite close to Wenzhou south station. The first train was not moving and the second train slowed to 100km when approaching closer to the station.

The safety measures in question should be those components along the tracks that sends signals to the dispatch center and following trains.

Lik

Moron,

What I'm saying is, since Grandfather has already been caught cutting corners in one area of safety, would I be surprised to see them cutting other corners in safety or even other areas as well?

-Lik

peter236

Moron,

What I'm saying is, since Grandfather has already been caught cutting corners in one area of ...
Lik 發表於 2011-7-25 19:00

They don't cut corners when it comes to safety. There is no indication they intentionally cut corners.

Lik

They don't cut corners when it comes to safety. There is no indication they intentionally cut corne ...
peter236 發表於 2011-7-25 19:09

Right. And that's why the accident was purely an act of God, not a result of human error.

Go eat shxt la, cocksxxker!

-Lik

peter236

Right. And that's why the accident was purely an act of God, not a result of human error.

Go eat s ...
Lik 發表於 2011-7-25 19:12

You are wrong. Even with the best technology, there is still human factor.
In this case, it looks like human factor.

MoiRhapsody

how with the self-claimed best signal system still allow human factor to involve?
One conclusion: they turned it off.

satil

yes, news just told us, 列車司機come out and said, a three months training was shorten to 10 days.
it is human factor..
what kind of human ????? Chinese? Japanese? or Canadian? ... or NON-Chinese (as Peter always said?!)... looks like must be Japanese... or us...Canadian-Chinese.

MoiRhapsody

the safety protocol should be well written and go through a numbers a trial and error to eliminate all the "human factor". it should not be override in any circumstances and any occasion.

If this incident is an "human error/mistake" , those high speed train system  doesn't worth a ****.(tho they already put in billion yuen in this system development)

peter236

yes, news just told us, 列車司機come out and said, a three months training was shorten to 10 days.
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satil 發表於 2011-7-25 20:35

Any links to prove your claim about their training? This is not the time for you to make things up, just for misleading the public.
You lie as much as the CCP. You always lied on this forum.

These Chinese train drivers have years of experience, starting with diesel trains and moving up to higher speeds trains. The second train's drivers had 18 years of driving trains experience.

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http://news.sina.com.cn/c/2011-07-26/092822877926.shtml

据郑振治介绍，潘一恒2009年6月取得动车组驾驶证，同年10月走上动车组司机岗位，是动车组技师。发生事故牺牲前，他安全驾驶动车238262公里，从事机车乘务工作18年从未发生任何行车事故。

潘一恒1973年出生，1993年8月从广州铁路机械学校毕业后分配到福州机务段，一直从事机车乘务工作。

　　2008年5月，为迎接温福线动车组开通运营，他报考了动车组司机，2009年6月份取得动车组驾驶证。从参加动车组司机选拔考试、铁道部面试、西南交大理论培训考试到最后的实作培训考试，潘一恒都取得了良好成绩。2009年10月份走上动车组司机岗位后，他始终努力钻研业务知识，熟练掌握动车CRH1A、CRH1B、CRH1E、CRH2A、CRH2E型号动车组的操作技能，是动车组技师。