bluntbro

原帖由 soli 於 2009-1-15 15:53 發表

連耶教國家都睇唔過眼﹐要同以色列斷交﹐可見呢班上帝選民既所作所為係幾o甘惡劣。

Venezuela....u serious...Venezuela??? hahaa...was that the guy who scream devil and demon so loud after bush's visit..and u call tht country a high well worth discussed country? Poor jews...now u lose a oil import supplier... and they choose to abandon condemn you, Isarel, and quit all diplomacy?? hahaha....
let me hold my tears...

tht will be a good joke for tonight...thanks bud~

BiscottiGelato

I'm sure there's tons of conflict between Palestinian and the Israel. I'm sure both sides done a lot of nasty stuff. I'm not saying Israel are saints and all they have done so far since the beginning of time is all moral ane ethical. I'm saying if you fire friggin rockets for friggin a whole year on my civilians, then my military action to disable your capability to do so is called 'defense'.

Also, I completely don't understand your logic in regards to that targeting civilian is just 'normal'. Yeah in war you can do whatever you want, but to claim to be 'right', not targetting civilian is the least you should do. I am talking 'targeting' here, not talking about collateral damage.

Now, in regards to Israel destroying plenty of civilian structures and piling plenty of civilian casualties... Did you even read the link I posted a couple posts ago on the article written by that Havard Law dude? The argument/speculation here is that the Hamas is using their own citizens as human shield (aka. launching attacks from hospitals, heavy residential areas, refugee camps). Also, attacking Israel civillian to provoked Israel to disable their military capabilities. They are basically just trying to rack up the death toll. How is that 'right' by any chance?

And if not for military action, what do you suppose Israel to do? Hamas have increased rocket attack to what? 6/7 dozens a day? ever since the 6 months truce ended late December. They denied renewal of the truce, even tho during the truce they still fired a dozen or so rockets a day over the Gaza border anyways. Furthermore these rockets are basically randomly scattered over area of land with plenty of civilians. This can't even be considered as conventional military action that attempts to reclaim disputed land. This is purely provoking Israel to whip their a$$, as civilian death is what they want.

I agree that full scale assault causing tons of civilian casualty is not the brightest move. But something must be done to remove the Hamas from power. Call me naive, I personally think assassination probably is a better way to get rid of the Hamas regime if one is to use force? But sitting there continually letting the enemy bomb your civilians is called irresponsible to your own people.

beaver

When two gangs are fighting for a land and claimed that they own it (or their ancestor own it), no one can judge and suggest how to solve the problem. Only the strong one will win (justice seems not work here). There is no ending until one group totally disappear. (e.g. Iran might destroy the land by nuclear weapons.)

I saw a very good documentary by BBC about Israel. Talking about how Jews start to build Israel and how British withdraw. This history problem need (a lot of) time to solve, and many many more to die. (However, we all will finally die someday.)

Thanks there is no more IRA, only some Tamil tiger. Hope the people in North Korea live better, no more famine in Africa.

MoiRhapsody

Palestinian在巴勒斯坦地區住了至少五百年。
直至軍隊鎮壓。
Palestinian做了無國籍的難民50多年！！！
回應bg，以色列唔打仗大把野可以做，
俾難民回原居地之其一，
撤銷國內既種族階級主義，
如果你係呢到俾人歧視你都唔會就咁算，
點解你會容忍以色列當巴勒斯坦人係畜牲咁殺咁趕呢？？？
哈瑪斯一直都有講，佢地要求以色列拆牆。
以色列起石屎牆圍Gaza同west bank根本一直係犯國際法，
當巴勒斯坦人係畜牲咁圍，
又炸晒gaza唯二既兩個可用港口，
咁你叫人食乜？？？
點解你可以無視呢啲事實呢？？？
火箭炮可以話佢地特登吐口水落你到，
咁你係咪要殺人全家呢？？？
洗唔洗咁重手？？
呢啲事只會對畜牲做。

somewhereintime

Isreali claims that they own the land, that their ancestor once thrived,
according to this logic, starting from China, India, Russia, all the way to Danube,
were once occupied and ruled by the Mongolian Hordes, and America ruled by native
Indians, should we return everything back to their original masters?
Isreali claim that the land is given from God, but they were condemned and expelled
for their sins.  Since when their sins were forgiven? and who is their real life God
and Provider?  it is Uncle Sam , not Jehovah.

BiscottiGelato

Don't get me wrong guys. I'm not siding with Israeli in terms of just owning the place as they are doing so and as it is. On the flip side, i'm dispising Hamas action in targetting civilian with their continuous and never-interrupting rocket attacks, and that the Israeli's should have the right to stop actions that continually put their own people in harms way.

Yes Israel is pushing forcefully thru Gaza. Civilians there are suffering. They claim they will stop their military action if Hamas stop firing random rockets across the border. Then why is the Hamas still firing useless rockets through the border? What good does that do to any issues at all? Why are their militia-men using hospitals and refugee building as sheilds when counterattacking the Israelis? Are they trying to brand themselves as a terrorist organization by meaninglessly escalating the war, or do they really just want to see the death toll continually rack up, or do they just want more of their own citizens to die? It seems to me that at least Israel is trying to protect their own people, while the Hamas don't friggin care about their fellow Palestinians at all..... Besides, 再重手都 still haven't been able to stop those rockets from firing. At least they are trying to only engage military targets....

比人 fire random rockets for 6 months at civilian territory 之後要"俾難民回原居地之其一，撤銷國內既種族階級主義", and you are talking to what you claim as a 'bully' that's "borderline terrorist", whom is stronger in both economy and military power than you? If the Hamas think they can achieve their goal of reclaiming their own land this way, then 佢地真係好心做壞事...

Palestinian got their land taken from them fifty years ago. Israelis claims their land got taken from them 500 years ago. Whose land is it? I definately won't make the call here. But if you f_ck my citizens then you know you'll get whacked. Sounds logical to me. The difference here is that I'm trying to defend my people while you shoot from behind your own....

MoiRhapsody

廿萬加沙學童周六復課
(明報)1月23日 星期五 21:00
以色列    向加沙的軍事行動結束後，大約20萬學童將可在明日復課。

聯合國    難民救濟及工程處在加沙海濱地區共開設了221間學校，在22日的戰爭期間，許多學校臨時用作難民營。發言人稱，明日所有學校會重開。(法新社)

THX GOD,
NO, THX OBAMA.