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28# BiscottiGelato


I think I don't live that long to see the end of the world.
Btw, I'm not good at biking. I am very bad on balancing...

Back to the original issue that "Miss Big C" mentioned..I am also not happy about the people who join that bike ride...just because they have a good intention (to go "green") doesn't mean they have the right to bring trouble to others.

大C姐

我覺得我要define一下我個觀點。

我唔係對踩單車嘅人有不滿﹐當然任何人都有權用條街﹐行人應該有行人路﹐馬路係俾車行﹐OK? 你唔可以令人feel guilty﹐覺得晌馬路渣車好唔要得。你要express你不滿咪去叫政府加多D單車徑囉。Come on baby﹐你唔去阻住人渣車﹐我相信99。9%車主係好樂意去support加單車徑。但係你一做阻街活動﹐就好分化囉。你見到呢幾版都係biker vs. driver其實個問題係D路無系統丫嘛﹐唔係渣車嘅人違規霸左條單車徑丫嘛。點解交通部會咁支持呢種活動? 我覺得係將個tension transfer左落班車主囉。

另外﹐你話環保呢家嘢﹐其實真係盡做﹐當你有選擇就一定有D人揀慳水慳力嘅方法。你唔可以懲罰人渣車﹐暫時渣車係唔犯法架嘛﹗? 一係你立法禁止人渣車﹐或者好似倫敦收congestion fee﹐無錢人就咪渣去downtown。講到尾﹐你夾硬阻街﹐又唔依交通指示行就係犯法啦﹐我話知你環唔環保。

-- 胸大放上檯大C姐

快樂牛郎

Forcing others to agree and adopt your transportation habit by reducing existing transportation infrastructure's quality, refusing to understand that other individual can have differeing needs, is s ...
BiscottiGelato 發表於 2009/8/17 14:59

I think the whole point of having democracy is to be self-centered.  I learned that from LYK.

ok maybe self-centered is not the right word

"fight for your belief"
i think that sounds better

and also bash all those who oppose your view

大C姐

I think the whole point of having democracy is to be self-centered.  I learned that from LYK.

ok maybe self-centered is not the right word

"fight for your belief"
i think that sounds better

and a ...
快樂牛郎 發表於 2009-8-17 17:54

你用唔合法嘅途經去發表一個極合理嘅觀點都係違規。

-- 一乳中的大C姐

mcjohnjohn

MJJ you don't even know what the Critical Mass is, how can you comment on it?! Actually it was peaceful, nothing 激進, I was there and the drivers (most of them) are very supportive too.
Can't say t ...
siumaibb 發表於 2009-8-18 01:16

siumaibb, 可以上google search 的... 唔會一d 都唔知既.

mcjohnjohn

唉... 有人鍾意踩單車, 咪踩law; 有人鍾意揸車, 咪揸law; 有人鍾意行路, 咪行law.

大C姐, 舉個例啦, 香港都成日都有遊行啦, 遊行就要封路, 咁都冇計架woh.
揸車既, 就唯有暫時避避law.

BiscottiGelato

I think the whole point of having democracy is to be self-centered.  I learned that from LYK.

ok maybe self-centered is not the right word

"fight for your belief"
i think that sounds better

and a ...
快樂牛郎 發表於 2009-8-17 16:54

Hmm... a democracy with low education level probably be filled with voters that votes using short sighted self-centric views. Maybe also some of those force your own views upon others as a bonus.

My naive believe thinks that the point of democracy is to find a consensus of what the majority think is 'right', not so much just what people think will benefit themselves...

Never mind all this, because Canada is just about who speaks the loudest. Idealists and extremist comes first, while majority and taxpayers comes last... Our version of democracy is about finding the lesser of a bunch of evils... or rather, the lesser of a bunch of idiots... ouch...

大C姐

唉... 有人鍾意踩單車, 咪踩law; 有人鍾意揸車, 咪揸law; 有人鍾意行路, 咪行law.

大C姐, 舉個例啦, 香港都成日都有遊行啦, 遊行就要封路, 咁都冇計架woh.
揸車既, 就唯有暫時避避law. ...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2009-8-17 18:57

MJJ兄﹐得罪都要講句。

有時呢...我都有D明點解有人會插爆你﹐你確之然講好多三毫子一擔嘅說話。我又唔話得你錯﹐但係聽落又好似無乜意義。

都唔係嘅﹐你都帶出左我想講嘅一樣嘢。在我而言﹐遊行係一個去到好絕先用嘅絕招。我覺得遊行好多時都係雙輸同埋無咩實質作用。當然﹐都有一兩個成功例子。當年7/1反23條係真係有point去搞﹐有point去遊行。但係老老實實﹐之後D人再搞我就覺得浪費左個impact﹐唔好有少少事就走上街﹐其實呢種原始做法好唔文明囉。

就好似單車遊行係一年大大小小幾次。好多人又以玩玩吓﹐嘉年華會心態出席﹐呢D咪係我所指嘅無__謂囉。

-- 小吊帶凸點大C姐

快樂牛郎

Hmm... a democracy with low education level probably be filled with voters that votes using short sighted self-centric views. Maybe also some of those force your own views upon others as a bonus.

M ...
BiscottiGelato 發表於 2009/8/17 21:36

Are you saying most voters are long term oriented and selfless? That's really a novelty to me.  Because to me democracy is to be as selfish as possible and by having different forces that cancel out each other, an equilibrium can be reached.  Whether it's a win-win or a lose-lose situation is irrelevant.

sheep

39# 快樂牛郎


我都好讚成 人不為己 天誅地滅
但係損人利己就唔係幾好
況且 呢D行為 係損人更不利己
重要打嚮旗號 話為大眾曾取平等