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本帖最後由 satil 於 2012-11-27 22:21 編輯

回復 385# reyes

我地買時, 就係加幣高嘛.
遲一兩年,美金定番,又賺埋對換.

你可以開個美金戶口,留住睇定啲,當抄埋外幣.

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本帖最後由 satil 於 2012-11-27 22:49 編輯

回復 387# 大C姐

我地其中有幾個投資者係咁諗.

銀行比你存錢近0%利息, 你借錢3%, 若有投資保證3年回報多過銀行放定期, 咪當放另一間銀行定期之麻.
3年後本利歸還.
仲有股份在手,會派息分紅,這是extra.可大可小,看市度,
就算當一蚊唔要賣咗佢,你都賺咗啦.

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本帖最後由 大C姐 於 2012-11-27 22:53 編輯
回復  大C姐

這模式我們已運作了十五年, 做了9個project,幸好運作流暢.
現在十分系統化.結構當完整.
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satil 發表於 2012-11-27 22:07



   
十五年...我真心佩服你,又或者你超好彩,whichever case都替你開心,人事係最難handle。不過唔同意係唐人難搞啲,你睇吓facebook一有錢一有少少唔信任就好易不歡而散。而且有時香港人反而爽快啲,做嘢比較冇咁多"gee gut"。

咁唔關事㗎,如果你哋係equal partners日後都有人會多多意見,或者再有任何decision你都要concensus。抑或其實你哋係有一個controlling interest呢?我就寧願信一個人,自己做minority,好過同9個人坳餐懵。

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回復  reyes

我地買時, 就係加幣高嘛.
遲一兩年,美金定番,又賺埋對換.

你可以開個美金戶口,留住 ...
satil 發表於 2012-11-27 22:09


你哋如果係公司形式的話就當然係USD functional currency其實淨係一年派息一次的話好易做hedging啫,唔會太困難。

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回復  大C姐

我地其中有幾個投資者係咁諗.

銀行比你存錢近0%利息, 你借錢3%, 若有投資保證3年 ...
satil 發表於 2012-11-27 22:47



    呢條數我識計。所以我係唔介意投資落朋友生意,我信我個朋友就ok。反而partnership形式會好多掣肘。

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本帖最後由 satil 於 2012-11-27 23:54 編輯

噢, 唔記得表明立場, 我唔係借意sale你地入局.
我唔會比你地加入, 除非真的十分認識你的為人. (無番三五七年..)
但我可以提供多點idea, 大家不彷抄嚟用, 用得著就攞去啦, 天大地大, 你有你搵, 我有我搵.
我樂於多班無金錢關係的朋友.
前英國殖民地香港華裔漢族加拿大藉人
"現在談愛國,那是愛誰的國...少數人的國,他們少數人去愛吧"

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回復  reyes

你sense 唔到我幾大? 
satil 發表於 2012-11-27 22:08



    幾大都會有異性有興趣做你小三的

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本帖最後由 BiscottiGelato 於 2012-11-28 01:14 編輯

I know some not very close co-workers, just one or 2, at work doing these stuff. They do one whole building of apartment at a time. A dozen floors or so? Basically that's their main job. The 100ish K salary is just supplemental income, and obviously they don't even care about promotion or whatever. They just do minimum to not get fired. 9-5 on the dot. I think I heard they are doing Phoenix. Mostly started around 2008/9 or something. Difference is I think they have friend in Phoenix that can monitor this full time, but just need investment influx which is much better in Vancouver than Phoenix. So the Vancouver side manages finding investment and doing the accounting and all that.

Don't quote me on this tho, just 3rd hand information here.

But I do agree that trust, effort and competence needs to be high on these type of project. But at least it seems that the returns justify it some what.~

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Interesting. Was Wiki'ing Phoenix. and there's a paragraph that says
"Despite the housing collapse, Phoenix is seeing an improvement in its rental housing. “Commercial-property owners are counting on apartment buildings to lead the Phoenix area's real-estate market toward recovery, based on a recent rebound for units rented and buildings sold.”[51]"

Anyways, the world is so big. And even just NA has so many stable investment and RE markets. Just limiting one self to 'invest' in the currently highly risky Vancouver RE market is definitely narrow vision. I'd even argue that sitting on cash might be a better bet than plunging into the RE market at this height.

All depends on investment horizon of course.

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我都覺得我份工只係買花戴,如果靠份工去build wealth我就趴街啦。

不過我自己嘅經驗話我知,力不到不為財,你一係淨係投資錢咩都唔理,一係就一手一腳做話事。如果同太多人夾份尤其各有各工作唔係可以全心投入的話,真係好難一齊合作。淨係每一件事,小至搵邊個律師邊間銀行都要concensus就已經好唔爽快。

我可能比較急啦,同埋我又唔想得失朋友,講到尾,錢真係唔係最緊要(對我嚟講),如果朋友為錢反咗面我覺得好唔值得,你人生有幾多個識咗15年嘅朋友?

我唯一會同朋友或屋企人投資就係我就算蝕晒俾對方我都覺得冇所謂嘅,咁我就覺得ok啦。因爲同人投資最怕就係小心眼,驚住人哋賺多過我,又怕人哋覺得我撈油水。

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