yayaya

Actually when I was getting my second sheltie and browsing through many reputative breeders' website ...
嘉嘉 發表於 2010-3-16 23:55

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那是宠物店牟取暴利，尤其是pj pet store（我不知道vancouver有没有pj但是多伦多pj最大），一条200多块成本买回来的cross breed pup可以卖到1200，他们的拿货源头和我的一样，broker卖的可能是翻倍的利润，就是300－400，小型pet store卖的是600－700，大型pet store卖的是4－6倍的利润，所以以一条狗的利润来说，puppy mill不是赚得最多的，但是你要知道，市场是平衡的，有需求才有人breed, ok?
要是个个都要见小狗的父母，n代血统证书，那根本上不会有puppy mill的形成。

again生活有很多层次的人，做生意的人没有心思去逐个家庭看小狗，看完一个没有父母再看第二个，很多人买狗或者养狗的目的只是因为空虚寂寞，多数人只当他们是伴侣，甚至玩具，并不是每个人对狗有特别的感觉。
我们做pet store的也有名你叫，pet store，我们给人们提供他们需要的，pet store不是family也不是breeder，我们卖出去的狗我们有售后服务，但是有人虐待我们卖出去的狗，我们没有什么权利去追究也不会去研究哪个买家的背景才卖给别人。人要看性格，狗要看血统，你要是真的喜欢狗，要买一条好狗，去找reg breeder，花应该花的钱，而不是在complain什么puppy mill pet store。

嘉嘉

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那是宠物店牟取暴利，尤其是pj pet store（我不知道vancouver有没有pj但是 ...
yayaya 發表於 2010-3-17 00:58

hey I don't know if it's the pet shop or the puppy mill
but I don't like both of them anyway

and the problem is
Not too many people know the existence of puppy mill...........................
I didn't know what was puppy mill when I got my first dog
when I was getting my second dog, I knew what it was finally and decided not to go to petshop and go straight to breeder

the thing I like about reputative breeders is that some would actually ask you to write a bit about yourself and how you are going to take care of the puppy. If they think you are not suitable, they will not even sell the puppy to you.

布小熊

Not too many people know the existence of puppy mill...........................
I didn't know what was puppy mill when I got my first dog
嘉嘉 發表於 2010-3-17 06:59 AM

I think this is the reason that the public need to know about puppy mill. So they can make their choice even when they are getting their first pet.

yayaya

well, i do think a lot of canadians know about puppy mill (at least heard about it before), but if people don't see it by themselve, they will never scare about that specific thing

and if you saying you are super sympathetic to animals, you should probably go get a pup in puppy mill because then you rescue another life from a horrible place

if not, then you don't have to worry about puppy mill as long as you buy from a person who
's willing to let you see the place and give you the health warranty.

if you worry about the personality of a factory pup, then you go get one in a family, that's it

i made $200-$300 per day by being a broker, i think i know this career at least a little bit better than you, every day people come to see me and buy pup but they never ask about the parents of the pups. so, puppy mill, won't disappear, no matter how you blame on it.

fibbi

回復 38# 快樂牛郎


    True...but say my hobby is card making. If I give up one day...it won't hurt (other than my wallet)....but if I keep a pet and I don't like it one day...or mistreat it... it costs a life...

yayaya

it's not necessary if you can find a better owner for you dog

totori

and if you saying you are super sympathetic to animals, you should probably go get a pup in puppy mill because then you rescue another life from a horrible place

....... so, puppy mill, won't disappear, no matter how you blame on it
yayaya 發表於 2010/3/17 09:27 AM

Everything is about demand and supply. If we educate the public the bad things about puppy mill, they will be discouraged to buy from them. Then if there is no demand, puppy mill will have to shut down eventually.

Puppy mill not only has poor breeding/sanitary condition, but also the breeder is continuously breeding the puppy regardless of whether the parents have any hereditary defects or illness. When someone buy those puppies they may not see it because likely the problem will not surface until the puppy grow. So you may initially buy a "cheaper" puppy, but then ends up with huge vet bill. That's another reason not to buy from puppy mill.

yayaya

Everything is about demand and supply. If we educate the public the bad things about puppy mill, t ...
totori 發表於 2010-3-17 09:52

that's why i told you to find a good broker even though you don't wanna spend more than 1000 on a dog.

a better broker usually gets pup not from everywhere but a few fixed kennels they know very well, if the pup has genetic problem, they will replace you another one, well you can't never tell whether the pup has genetic problem right, even though it's from a family the puppy will still has the probablity to have genetic problem.

except for 1 year genetic health warranty, a better broker usually gives what a pet store will give to their coustomers, which is a 48 hrs or 72 hrs fatal problem warranty.

i am a person who's doing this business but it's not equal that i don't love pets or dogs. i hope you guys understand i am just trying to let you know more real situation about it but i am not saying i support those puppy mills.

Ultraman

"很多人买狗或者养狗的目的只是因为空虚寂寞，多数人只当他们是伴侣，甚至玩具，并不是每个人对狗有特别的感觉。"
That's why puppy mills have so much markets, but doesn't mean it's a good thing.

"我们做pet store的也有名你叫，pet store，我们给人们提供他们需要的，pet store不是family也不是breeder..."
Should people open "family member store" instead of "pet store" to emphasize they sell "family members", in which they are cats and dogs and hamsters and fishes etc?
If people feel bored, they can play TV games or watch AV whatever, why buy living animals but treat them bad?
Those puppy mills, all they want is to grab money, they don't care what moral is. Same as prostitution, no moral is concerned, it's just a business so it's OK too?

fibbi

回復 49# Ultraman


    Pet owner may not intentionally treat the pet bad la...but just not knowledgeable enough to take care of them...