somewhereintime

回復 36# peter236

Have you ever seen it happened in USA, Germany and Switzland?
A government that does not respect its own constitution should be

trashed by its citizen. unfortunately the people in China do not have

the right to do so, even talking about it would be convicted.

I never  agree with the Yankee's political policy, I stand by the universal

value in term of democracy and human right, no different from the

general opinion of average HKer. Do you read the HK papers at all?

BiscottiGelato

You are quite correct that the 2 cases are similar in that both persons crossed the bottom lines of ...
Lik 發表於 2010-12-10 13:25

Exactly, Assange probably can get away legally. But it seems that the US is trying to work their diplomatic muscles to bend the law. It's not that different from China really. Besides, so far it's just all those dumb-ass politician in the states that doing the talking. The ones actually decides on how to counter Assange definately works behind the scene, maybe even Obama won't know about it... That's exactly why we need something like WikiLeak to know how things works behind the scene in the US, and how undemocratic their processes are.

Dalai Lama have been involved in seperatism in the past, and he's still eligible for NPP? Obama is pulling troops from Afghan and you call that a 'peace effort'? I call that a debt reduction effort. Anyone elected for the current term as US President would do that. Heck Harper have been trying to pull troops all the time too, why don't we give him a NPP too?

On the subject of Liberty and Human Rights, China is still in Grade 3 Elementary School while the Western World is 3rd year University. The Western World slams China for not being able to do Algebra when they fail Calculus themselves. China obviously have much to improve, they are still classified as a developing country afterall. I'm not saying China should get away with everything because of this, but the way China is slammed by Western media is definately politically charged or greatly influenced by prior propganda.

With that perspective in place, I'd say the Western World disappoints me much more so as a University student than China as an Elementary student. If China is 2 steps forward, 1 step back, then the Western World is doing 2 steps back for each step forward... The way the Western values are eroding from Western societies concerns me much more than the slow progress that China is making every day. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to be where international media attention is focusing on, with possible reasons stated prior (government influence and propaganda).

BiscottiGelato

回復  peter236

Have you ever seen it happened in USA, Germany and Switzland?
A government that doe ...
somewhereintime 發表於 2010-12-10 13:38

I agree China have much room to improve. But from my limited observatoin, China is improving, albeit at a snail pace. After all, China have been delayed by 100 years by the very foreign interests that is criticizing it today.

As I said in the post above. I'd think much more of our attention is deserved in protecting the Western values that we thought we have, but is quickly slipping away, from the Western society that we are living in today (unless you are posting from Asia).

somewhereintime

I have been  observing China for 40+ years.
All I can think of is that:
the Russia has successful ditch the socialism,
and remain a great power, both politically and
economically.  Even the US cannot blackmail the polar bear.Why  China has to wait for another
50 years? after the CCP has wasted 61 years

somewhereintime

Progress in economy? no doubt.

Political reform and democracy in China?

Worse than 1989

soli

I don't see a problem.

I think it is ok if enough people want independence.  Let the people vote  ...
Look4chrisng 發表於 2010-12-10 10:01

是嗎? 那麼加拿大自1999年開始就文明倒退了?
平時多看新聞﹐關心下自己國家既事。

soli

回復 25# somewhereintime
一係你就返大陸住﹐如果唔係你做你既加拿大人﹐中國D野你理o甘多做乜?

soli

Dalai Lama have been involved in seperatism in the past, and he's still eligible for NPP?

力仔就係o甘痴線﹐我諗有時佢自己都唔知自己講緊乜。
殺人犯放下屠刀﹐可以立地成佛不特止﹐仲可以囉和平獎~

somewhereintime

以無知為榮

somewhereintime

殺人犯放下屠刀﹐可以立地成佛不特止﹐
仲可以做國家領導人