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講返讀書,我都係以實際為主。如果一科我好有興趣但係好難搵食,同另一科無咁有興趣但係容易搵到工,我都會 ...
fibbi 發表於 2012-9-27 14:38

很明顯你並不是80後.

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回復 41# mcjohnjohn

我先無咁笨話俾人聽自己係咩十後   

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本帖最後由 Ovaltine 於 2012-9-27 00:54 編輯

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    Interesting thought, I bet you think kids with ideals are too simple sometimes naive, I understand that money is power, when you enter the workforce, you just try relentlessly to climb the social hierarchy. As peasants, you will always lose this game, there will always be someone who are younger, faster and stronger who can take your place. My doctrine is you can't lose if you don't play. I always let people around me know that, I get a certain respect for this, my parents take it very hard though. I just don't want to be part of this mass propagnda, mass education, mass media system where they brain-wash you into oblivion. Capitalism is like catching machine hares in a maze, when you succeed, there is more to catch. Very tiring.

Actually it is the intolerance and bigotry from the industrial people that I come to hate, their assertiveness think their way is the best and only way. I am actually in search of this egalitarian paradise, and found it is only prevalent in hunter-gatherer society. Industrial society with it's social caste system is actually democracy branded as feudalism. Our civilization is moving way to fast, it is growing wide in vastness rather than testing the length of time. We are sprinting our way into a brick wall, rather than slowly maneuvering our human vessel.  

This bring us to the new question: To conform or not to conform.







Listen to the 毛里求斯 turtle part.

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講返讀書,我都係以實際為主。如果一科我好有興趣但係好難搵食,同另一科無咁有興趣但係容易搵到工,我都會 ...
fibbi 發表於 2012-9-26 22:38



    我自己都係咁諗,我知好多人會disagree,但係我一定唔會喺大學花錢去學"興趣"。依家資訊爆炸嘅年代,有咩知識唔可以自己搵,自己讀?就算要搵老師教,例如某啲科學或語文,都用不着讀一個4年制嘅degree。如果只係想對知識上追求,唔需要一張cert去證明,俾便個睇啫?

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本帖最後由 大C姐 於 2012-9-27 08:37 編輯
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    Interesting thought, I bet you think kids with ideals are too simple sometimes na ...
Ovaltine 發表於 2012-9-27 00:40



    聽落好有hippies思想。

我覺得每個人都要對社會有建設,以呢個社會上亦一定有工作係厭惡性。幾千年嚟都一定有人做清潔,做殯儀,做勞工... 咁但係如果每個做呢類工嘅人都憤世嫉俗,對資本主義社會懷恨,咁好難過日子。

而事實上亦唔係所有清潔嬸嬸都唔開心,佢哋好多都有愛錫佢哋嘅家人,關心佢哋嘅朋友同事,照顧佢哋嘅鄰居。當你接受咗工作只係工作,其實唔一定要好苦咁生活。



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回復 43# Ovaltine


    I don't think kids with ideals are naive at all. I admire them. But I am not one of them and I don't want to be one of them. This is just not what I'm looking for in life. I prefer a "balance". Work+Life balance. I need work, because it provides my basic needs, if not more. I want to persue my interest in some way. So I'd choose a job that I'm interested in, to a certain degree. And on the side I do what I'm interested in, for example, card making. I'm happy.

I don't believe in going extreme is good, in either direction. Too much work for $ that's slave and no life. Too much lay back and no work that's also boring and to me. And it's just meaningless (to the society as a whole).

just my two cents.

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我自己都係咁諗,我知好多人會disagree,但係我一定唔會喺大學花錢去學"興趣"。依家資訊爆炸嘅年 ...
大C姐 發表於 2012-9-27 08:22



    就算返學校讀都唔等於要讀四年嘅,讀一兩個course,作為elective,未嘗不可。喺學校讀同自修又未必一樣。喺學校讀會有機會做project,自己就唔會。又例如想樂器,自修學識睇譜唔難,但係你唔會知道你彈嘅指法啱唔啱。

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甚麼是興趣?你自顧唔打人工或許(都其實冇咩可能)可以興趣當飯食。 ...
大C姐 發表於 2012-9-26 18:11


你又前設興趣=無態度?
又將興趣=無正經

我知你想講咩,你應該用發夢來形容果d不設實際的人,隨口up,什麼都可以是興趣的人
但真正對某事有興趣的人,是有熱誠,會花盡心力心思去投入鑽研
可知道有人因興趣變得極度專業,比任何人都精

當然,我的前設是有料到的人才可談興趣

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講反學歷
如果你是父母,你明知自己仔女高不成,底不就,但剛剛有能力入到大學讀general studies
你明知加拿大普通大學生搵吾到錢,你會吾會叫佢吾好入大學,去讀D技能既野,吾好哂錢哂時間
無希望無失望

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你又前設興趣=無態度?
又將興趣=無正經

我知你想講咩,你應該用發夢來形容果d不設實際的人,隨口up,什 ...
ricrick 發表於 2012-9-27 15:40



    點講呢...興趣可以係動力或靈感囉,但係工作都係絕大部分係講現實。

OK,我有個朋友喺呢邊10年前已經好鍾意研究健康食品,有機嘢食等等,咁畢業返咗香港就開始做呢類食品嘅代理。你問佢對自己嘅事業滿唔滿意,當然係由自己興趣出發先有靈感去做呢門生意。但係你問佢呢個生意是否個人興趣,就一定唔係囉!你要day to day做10萬樣瑣碎嘢,其實去到生意果part已經係同健康食品冇咩關係,佢賣屎塔都係要追數,發單,check shipment,出糧... 講到尾,出嚟搵食好難講興趣點都要面對人(難頂嘅客/伙記),要對人就一定複雜。興趣對我嚟講係鍾意幾時做就幾時做,唔使同人交代。

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