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What I think might happen.. if it's anything like what happened in Sydney after the Olympics is that prices will skyrocket.. then drop back down. We had a period of double digit increases in home prices and now the affordability factor is really bad for new home buyers... and this is for apartments. If young people want to get into the market now, they'd have to settle for buying say on a busy road / something fairly old / some suburb that's not so nice... the repossession rates here especially where the blue collar workers live are very high because they are the ones that are the least educated, least able to sustain rising interest rates / cost of living and the ones easily fooled by really dodgy lenders telling them something they "could" afford but when in fact they were well and truely borrowing over their earning ability.

Interest rates here have risen 13 times.. all of them 0.25% increases and in the year and a bit since I bought my villa, it's gone up at least 1.25%.

For me, I skimped on a lot of things.. no name foods, ate not so fancy fish, went out less... in the end, I moved back with my parent's home and going to rent my place out, fortunately to a friend after the other person disappeared from my life.. which was a good thing I guess.. but that's another story.... but now I can really hit my mortgage really really hard before I move out again and not have this massive interest charge. The only downside moving back home is that I added another 20-30mins to my usual 45mins drive to work.... then add the extra petrol cost... it's higher here than it is in Canada and I'm trying every single way to get away with driving my own lease car (fortunately working at a car company has its perks). US$50 of petrol a week in a Yaris automatic is a joke just to get to and from work.

The best shopping here we can go to is HK... no such luxury here to pop down to Seattle for a bit of cheap buys.

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其實個標題唔講minimum個字就乜都得。

每個人既生活方式都唔同﹐但係又車又樓又無債絕對稱不上係minimum。

mortgage不應多過收入既三份一(30%-$35%)﹐如果你每月供$5000mortgage即係話你應該有$15000收入﹐又即係年薪$180﹐000﹗除非你做生意/你係大狀﹐明星﹐一般人無可能賺$180﹐000一年﹐俾你賺到﹐都唔算係MINIMUM啦﹗

-- 超級無聊大C姐

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Interesting topic since I just brought an apartment and moved out to form a family.  So I went thru all these calculation many many times over and over again....  Haha...

It is scary how much it costs.  Of course everyone wants to pay off your mortgage in 5 years, who doesn't.    Life is a trade off, I have to give up something to achieve others.  Once thing I learn is that a good credibility worths a lot of money.  I never know my life worths so much...  

Good that you think about this before you even finish school.  Now you could start your planning earlier.

- Brian

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原帖由 大C姐 於 2008-5-26 13:30 發表
其實個標題唔講minimum個字就乜都得。

每個人既生活方式都唔同﹐但係又車又樓又無債絕對稱不上係minimum。

mortgage不應多過收入既三份一(30%-$35%)﹐如果你每月供$5000mortgage即係話你應該有$15000收入﹐又即係年薪$18 ...


agree!兼且年薪18萬不如唔好mortgage啦!自己儲5年錢唔好比銀行賺你利息gum個living cost仲細啦!

我地呢D移民後代已經好幸福,樓主所講的minimum對於好多人來說已經係more than happy喇!

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又車又樓又無債 = perfect life  

when one has yearly income of $1.8M, his standard life will be pretty high as well.  And saving up for 5 years without 1 cent of spending still wouldn't able to purchase a house.

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原帖由 katamari 於 2008-5-26 03:31 PM 發表


agree!兼且年薪18萬不如唔好mortgage啦!自己儲5年錢唔好比銀行賺你利息gum個living cost仲細啦!

我地呢D移民後代已經好幸福,樓主所講的minimum對於好多人來說已經係more than happy喇! ...

Yes... at least my parents paid for my tuition. And covered basic expanses for my U years. I was on my own the day after my convo.

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原帖由 B2L2 於 2008-5-26 15:49 發表
又車又樓又無債 = perfect life  

when one has yearly income of $1.8M, his standard life will be pretty high as well.  And saving up for 5 years without 1 cent of spending still wouldn't able to p ...

I think they were talking about $180,000 ... not $1.8M ($1,800,000).

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原帖由 B2L2 於 2008-5-26 15:49 發表
又車又樓又無債 = perfect life  

when one has yearly income of $1.8M, his standard life will be pretty high as well.  And saving up for 5 years without 1 cent of spending still wouldn't able to p ...

My calculation: $180,000 yearly x5 = $900,000. In order to save up to $660,000 after 5 years to pay off a house right away, you still have $4000 to spend per month wor. (ignoring tax, inflation and raise of salary factors.) Which is pretty reasonable to me ar.

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Sorry, not 1.8M.  Got myself confused.  

Ignoring tax?  Consider he pays ~30% tax, his yearly income has only $126k.  Without spending 1c, he could save up to $630k in 5 years.

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原帖由 B2L2 於 2008-5-26 16:30 發表
Sorry, not 1.8M.  Got myself confused.  

Ignoring tax?  Consider he pays ~30% tax, his yearly income has only $126k.  Without spending 1c, he could save up to $630k in 5 years.


hee... the tax rate above 100k for sure is not 30% or "~30%"

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