chunsh

原帖由 shutterbug 於 2008-12-17 15:25 發表

What kind of desires are you talking about?  I'm just talking about sexual desires.  People have tons of different kinds of desires, and of course one way or another, we have failed.  On issues as cr ...

what you said can be achieved in an ideal world
too bad, our world is not ideal that everyone is rational in ALL cases before we had sex. On the contrary, the moment right before having sex is one of the moments for people who be irrational.

again, I didnt say I agree that we have no responsibilities for that

shutterbug

原帖由 Hyde 於 2008-12-17 15:36 發表


WTF do you think we are talking about?  you can't even understand a simple conversation. I quoted you for a reason.  Learn to read, and digest what you are reading.

read what? you only have a couple of words for me to read, and they don't make any sense, come back when you can write proper sentences

chunsh

原帖由 fibbi 於 2008-12-17 15:03 發表
There are quite a lot of people got married before 25 years old too. They can't have kids??
say 22, or 23 years old, already graduated from college/university and probably start working already. What' ...

did u ever hear news reports/stories about young parents(normally < 23) leaving their babies at home and then going to club/dance/drink/one night stand/etc.... and then their babies/children got injured by themselves at home??

people under 25 at this generation dont know even take care of themselves like the generations 20 years ago with the same age

shutterbug

原帖由 chunsh 於 2008-12-17 15:49 發表


what you said can be achieved in an ideal world
too bad, our world is not ideal that everyone is rational in ALL cases before we had sex. On the contrary, the moment right before having sex is one o ...

Not really only in ideal world.  Many good decision makers can do this.  Of course young kids will probably not be able to control as good as adults about sex, and that's why there is an age limit.  It's a training of mind which probably come with good discipline.

shutterbug

原帖由 chunsh 於 2008-12-17 15:59 發表


did u ever hear news reports/stories about young parents(normally < 23) leaving their babies at home and then going to club/dance/drink/one night stand/etc.... and then their babies/children got inj ...

of course I did

do you see  the connection?
naive/imature kids had the forbidden fruit -> baby -> did not take the responsiblilty of being parents -> baby suffers

so who's fault is this?  is that any better than this?
naive/imature kids had the forbidden fruit -> baby -> abortion -> live in shadow for life

Ultraman

原帖由 shutterbug 於 2008-12-17 12:13 發表

You had unprotected sex with your gf and she's pregnant.  Now you're saying you don't love her and just being "responsible"?  That's garbage!  People think with their butts or what?  They don't know  ...

Please don't misunderstand me.

I didn't say the guy didn't love the girl but only being responsible. I meant, that is not the best way to love or to express his love. Getting married is very easy to do, but the rest of the life could be very tough. Not only the young parents' lives are tough, but also their kid. Being a responsible parent, yes you can have your own guts to face any difficulty (at least you can think that way); but you have no right to choose a tough life for your kid(s) (if you say you love your kids). Which parents don't want to provide all the best things for their kids? If you can foresee your kid will be having a very tough and unhealthy life but still want to give birth, can I call you silly-brave and irresponsible? Even more, if a child grown up from an unhealthy family, what would he/she influence to the community? Being a responsible parent, not only you should consider yourself, but also your offspring, plus the society. See how many "bad guys", adult criminals as well as young criminals out there? Can/would you say their parents have no responsibility at all? Can/would you say their parents are very responsible people?

Good and responsible parents not formula-ly raise good and responsible children. However, immature and irresponsible parents surely reduce the chance of raising good and responsible children.

Hyde

原帖由 shutterbug 於 2008-12-17 15:58 發表

read what? you only have a couple of words for me to read, and they don't make any sense, come back when you can write proper sentences

i got straight to the point and you can't understand it.... if u wern't retarded, maybe you'd get it.

Hyde

原帖由 shutterbug 於 2008-12-17 15:44 發表

many parents are working full time, still lots of them share lots of love with their kids, have you seen the family on yahoo blog?

Did the original poster said he's living off the street right now?  ...

the OP didn't even say she is pregnant, what's your point?  but what I know is that she's worry that she doesn't even have enough financially to support the family.

you are right when there are more things to worry about then money, but before you worry about other things, you better worry about money first.   so before they have money, they should start worrying that kind of extra activities their kids should learn, or what private school they should go to?  

have you see those poor ppl thats on welfare and live in public housing post family photo in yahoo blog?  the only time i see their family photo is when the parents kill the kids and themselves becuz they are too fcuking poor on the headline news.

shutterbug

if you said so...go right down to a point that only you can understand on this planet...LOL

I knew people living in public housing and they're very happy wor...what's posting pics on blogs have to do with happiness?

aham...I thought you said the ONLY important thing is money, when did you change your mind?  I hate quoting people but this is for you only "Money is THE only reason to worry" (post #26).  I think there's a difference between "first" and "only".

shutterbug

OK Ultraman, I see what you're trying to say now.

For one thing, are the parents in such a bad situation/condition right now?  I think for most people, they're probably not in that position.  You've said "tough" many times.  So what are the problems that this couple is facing that will be so tough and cause a unhealthy baby?  Is not able to go to party/bar too tough?  LOL  Maybe it's time for them to grow up?

Silly brave or irresponsible?  I'm sure there are people who are silly brave.  I'm not saying you shouldn't analyze the problem and come up with a plan.  I'm saying one shouldn't hide from difficulties.  It could be difficult but it's not impossible right?  Even for a low income person, it's not impossilbe to have a kid.  This is Canada, it's way better than a lot of other places already.  Giving the best to the kids?  What's the best and what the worse?  If you insist on having private school, then of course not a lot of people can afford that.  However, public school is absolutely free.  Instead of wearing Nike, you can wear Walmart shoes, etc...many people are doing that...

So how would you deal with this baby then?  I want to know your opinion.