Lik

中共現今嘅領導人本身同六四並無直接關係，佢地點解要為前朝嘅政權負上呢個帶有極大損害性嘅道德包袱呢？六四一日唔平反，人民一直都會響呢個議題上沖擊中共政府。

正如趙紫陽所講，早啲平反好過遲啲先平反；社會安定嘅時候平反好過動盪嘅時候先至平反。

-力

rockypath

中共現今嘅領導人本身同六四並無直接關係，佢地點解要為前朝嘅政權負上呢個帶有極大損害性嘅道德包袱呢？六四一日唔平反，人民一直都會響呢個議題上沖擊中共政府。

正如趙紫陽所講，早啲平反好過遲啲先平反；社會安 ...
Lik 發表於 2009-6-3 09:51

In your opinion, how should the Chinese government 平反 6.4. if it was an action to overthrow the government (directed by another counter 政治勢力) and the student movement was just a tool.

What if we try a though which is even bolder – the student movement was actually planned, directed and provoked by the政治勢力 which wanted to overthrow 鄧小平and his administration.

P.S. – please don’t blame me, It is all triggered by 老友四號. Maybe 6.4. is not as simple as we thought.

Lik

正如我之前個 post 所講，隨住當代領導人同鄧小平、李鵬等等嘅直屬關係越來越疏離，六四平反嘅難度就變得越來越低，而必要性亦變得越來越高。當前朝嘅人同佢地嘅直屬派系人物都已經死嘅死、退嘅退，咁又有咩事唔可以公開？

廿年以來從來都無任何證據啲學生係有組織、有計劃咁受人指使去打倒共產黨。啲無恥狗賊（例如果件呂姓賤狗肥仔）極其量都只係老作話港人帶錢同物資俾國內學生就搞政治鬥爭嘅外力。我 ()#@$*#$&%(，如果咁樣都算係有組織、有計劃咁受人指使去打倒共產黨，咁你講晒啦？！

相對地，各方面都有無數咁多嘅證據係指明學生無意打倒共產黨。當年物價飆升呢個議題佢地特登避而不用就係唔想令到政府難做。佢地要求嘅係一啲好簡單、好基本嘅訴求：反貪腐、要民主、要改革。從頭到尾，一句都無話要打倒共產黨。

Rockypath 你所提出嘅假設根本法生過，所以無須去討論。

-力

soli

柴玲呢條八婆係當時既總指揮﹐  我相信條八婆講既野都有返o甘上下代表性。

條八婆親口同記者話﹐  民運既目的係要推翻中共﹐  係要天安門血流成河。

一個普通學生無端端點會有o甘既想法﹐  話無人幕後指使撐腰﹐  就真係搵鬼信。

ACC-HE

正如我之前個 post 所講，隨住當代領導人同鄧小平、李鵬等等嘅直屬關係越來越疏離，六四平反嘅難度就變得越來越低，而必要性亦變得越來越高。當前朝嘅人同佢地嘅直屬派系人物都已經死嘅死、退嘅退，咁又有咩事唔可以公開？
Lik 發表於 2009-6-3 14:51

sounds fair.  Just like how Harper can apologize to the Chinese for the head tax...

somewhereintime

sounds fair.  Just like how Harper can apologize to the Chinese for the head tax...
ACC-HE 發表於 2009-6-3 13:55

We need to learn from the history, which cost us dearly.
Admitting the wrongdoing would help to ditch the historical burden,
I really admire and respect the German government, they are brave enough
to confess and repent, they are indeed the great race of human.

Lik

We need to learn from the history, which cost us dearly.
Admitting the wrongdoing would help to ditch the historical burden,
I really admire and respect the German government, they are brave enough
to confess and repent, they are indeed the great race of human.somewhereintime 發表於 2009-6-3 14:50

Sigh... so simple and so true, and yet this is precisely what the CCP refuses to do...

-Lik

somewhereintime

Sigh... so simple and so true, and yet this is precisely what the CCP refuses to do...

-Lik
Lik 發表於 2009-6-3 15:32

In simple words: arrogant and ignorance

peter236

We need to learn from the history, which cost us dearly.
Admitting the wrongdoing would help to ditch the historical burden,
I really admire and respect the German government, they are brave enough
t ...
somewhereintime 發表於 2009-6-3 15:50

We should demand an apology from the racist Japanese who are still denying Nanjing the massacre. Also, the western media are not even reporting the Nanjing massacre because they want to cover it up for the Japanese.

The US government gave Diaoyu Island to the Japanese, and therefore we should demand the US to apologize and take back those islands.

somewhereintime

We should demand an apology from the racist Japanese who are still denying Nanjing the massacre. Also, the western media are not even reporting the Nanjing massacre because they want to cover it up  ...
peter236 發表於 2009-6-3 15:40

That is correct ,smart boy