Alcoholic

yung44:
call back la...
i think for some reason i missed my call for my present employer too. however, she left a message... so i rehearsed many times to myself what to say on the phone when i call back... & what to say incase i get a voicemail.

its_visa

2008's 1st goal.....
FIND A  NEW JOB !!!!!!!!!!!!!
2008 2nd goal.....
save $ ! saVE $ ! SAVE $ !!!!

yungfourfour

I called back

The recruiter said she just wanna confirm I can make it to Vancouver if there's an interview

And I told her I got a week off next week and I'd be in Van the entire week

So she gave me an interview even tho she's not sure if the position is open !?

Well anyways

THANK GOD

Alcoholic

yung44

oh really? that's good la... good luck!

Twin,
how did your interview go @ EA?

utopia

Twin,

Damn, I felt like "sell pig" in EA last night lor. YES, their office is in EA building and using ea.com as her e-mail but they are nothing related to EA other than catering service.

They almost want to hire me on spot and I can tell they are desperate.... the admin lady keep saying " you are so computer savy"  and told me she cannot even use Excel so if she hire me, she will give me different idea on how she wants the report to look nice so I can use my magic. THEN, here comes the stupid part.

They are a catering company have 20 location and 150 employees. They just recently launched ACCPAC but NONE OF THE PEOPLE IN THE COMPANY know how to use it.
She even mentioned the girl that just left finally set up 100 vendor accounts for her and she sounds like it's a miracle. ... I was speechless...............

Then, they said they are indeed need to catch up a lot paper work and need strong organization skill to file those papers........then I ask them, do you scan your documents or do you file them in Cabinet? they were like, OH, do you prefer scanning every documents in order to organize? We always just do photocopy and pack them into those huge paper box..............................and they don't have a accounting cabinet.........

And, when they heard me mention that I do assist in payroll using both simply accounting and access.... they sound like "OMG , that's a very interesting idea"


So twin, what do you think about my interview??? hahahahah

Seriously, I"m amazed on those companies. Or may be I'm too used to work in large company? I don't understand why don't they have the technician to train them on how to use ACCPAC??? I went to interview this morning. The agent said the currency company need someone proficient in ACCPAC and willing to train other co-workers on how to use it.... because they will launch ACCPAC very soon and they need someone there know how to use it since nobody in the company know how to use it at all.

AND THEY OFFER ME A JUNIOR ACCOUNTING CLERK SALARY WITH THIS TASK?
I mean.......... I'm not that good........but......... I just don't get what the heck with their brain...... if you are not ready to use ACCPAC, then don't use it.

Alcoholic

Twin,
HAHAHAHHAHA!!!!! so they are just a TENANT of EA?!?! LMAO~
I know i'm not as good as those programs as you, as my position is not as specific/technical... but omg... she basic excel should know gua

as for "strong organizational skill"... i SO feel you~!!! basically, they're asking you to re-setup their entire filing system. both paper & electronic. guess what? welcome to my world. aside from the numbering system for our jobs, i friggin re-organized, centralized, & standardized the entire filing system for my company. there came this time, it took me a month to go through the ENTIRE damn thing file by file, drawer by drawer to re-do the whole thing. i realized that they haven't updated their filing for over 10 years. some files was as old as i was. worse, i ended up sending 48... yes FORTY EIGHT banker boxes of closed files to archiving...which of course, i had to enter each file on the database one by one. it's pretty stupid & so time consuming to do it. but i was so fed up that people ask me to locate a file, & i can't friggin find it because the whole thing was messed up. they didn't ask me to do it. but i HAD to do it for the sake of making my life easier to serve these messy engineers. i wonder what the fxxx was all the past admins doing before i came.
so remember our bby office opened not long? i spent a week in bby transfering files over, setting the whole thing up over there, & teaching the admin assistant of bby to keep the system organized. *aiii*

simply accounting & quickbooks i've used before... but i'm no where as good as you are because my area is not specific in accounting/fiance~ i'm just an all-rounder admin.

aiii... suen la~ slow slow look for a job lah. the market is spammed with ridculous postings ga~

[ 本帖最後由 Alcoholic 於 2008-1-4 21:40 編輯 ]

utopia

OMG, twin, I total feel you about filing!!! Luckily, I'm not as worse as your situation but our storage is as bad as yours company. AND YES, we do file as old as me too ~!!!

It was painful last summer because I have to prepare info for the lawsuite. During that time, they didn't have ACCPAC nor they just simply type in something like "AYROLL JULY 07" or "FREIGHT JULY"................that's it.........and didn't tell me any detail....so I had to go through 5 years Banker boxes .........dig out all the raw material and freight invoices and photocopy every single invoices................and re-enter them in ACCPAC...then run a general report so I can give some numbers to the lawyer..............AND, there were so many mis-filing ..............and unless it's some OBVIOUS vendors, the previous CA just put them all in Misc. folder. ...................... and all those paper works are more like papers from garbage bin.....................

So yeah, I know how you feel. but luckily my workload is too heavy and we don't really have enough staff to re-orgranize everything until last summer, I hired a student as a temp. She is a very quiet and organize honger girl. I was amazed on how she organize the entire storage room in our office........... Now that the other department see me digging old invoices, they always moan like they wish they are as organize as us.

Yestersday, I went for another interview. It's a currency company but they are way better than the EA one. AT LEAST they have someone doing accounting and they know how to use Excel (Thanks god, finally....)
BUT............... it happened again, they asked me am I proficient on ACCPAC....and I told her that I know about 80% of the program and that's the software that I use daily ................then she said her client is a company that need someone who know how to use ACCPAC........ and obviously, nobody in the company ever use ACCPAC before....... The ideal candiate will need to help training the co-worker on how to use ACCPAC...

Twin, I'm speechless lor........ I mean, I don't get it why these companies are so stupid. You are hiring an accounts payable clerk which know how to use ACCPAC and you expect her to train your staff. Like caveman said trainer pay way different than just an accounts payable clerk. Worst, if they are setting ACCPAC in their company, they can always call the techncian to give them tutorial. That's what happen to my current company, if we screw something on ACCPAC ....that we have no idea how to fix it. I will just call the techncian to fix and teach us how to do it. AND.................... it comes in a very detail user help guide............. that help guide actually saved me last time when I almost screw up a cheque run...


Twin, I am not any better than you in software la. All I can say I am a all-rounder accounting assistant that need to be full-time ar 4. Itès like I never ever thought of what I know is something that some companies out ther found itès amazing.......because to be honest, I think those are just some simple stuff lor........

[ 本帖最後由 utopia 於 2008-1-5 11:39 編輯 ]

utopia

Twin,

Remember last time you told me how much they pay you rightÉÉ

You better just quit and find another job. I was looking at the job market, a receptionist salary is $30,000

so just think about the workload in your office and think of the workload of a receptionist, then I am sure you will just want to leave the company.

Alcoholic

Twin,

did you call back for your umbrella yet? i've looked everywhere except the private office rooms but it's nowhere to been seen~

my company uses timberline. ( i don't know how to use that because i'm not accounting department). but i know if something happens, we can call the Sage technician over & teach/run reports... isn't it common sense?

great, we have similar jobs too:
1 twin is all rounder admin assistant ah-4
1 twin is all rounder accounting assistant ah-4

hahahah...my salary is a joke lah. on first day back, i received letter for the year-end raise. i got a donation of $500 raise ANNUALLY...which is like how many cents increased per hour??

i will quit la. something happened in december which got me soooooo pissed & choked, my eyes teared up~ but i said to myself, i will not let them fool me & pull me like a puppet, so i strongly sucked up my tears, ran down to the basement for a smoke & called my mom to vent out...   before, i just browse jobs, but i never apply. after that incident, now i'm totally spamming out my resume lor.

utopia

Well, my past salary was a joke too. They did make a significant raise on my salary twice in the past 6 months but guess whatÉÉ

It just barely reach the market price and Ièm talking about the lowest market price. Talking about workload, I work almost 10 - 11 hours a day........ I knew how you feel twin, I was so choked for so many times during my hell hole training in this company but right now, I am calm and ready to apply for new jobs. I dun hate my supervisor anymore as I know I did learn alot from her even though she intentionally hide things from me so that I only at the surface and I have to suffer from her crazy moody behavior....... but yeah, at this moment, I learn what I needed to learn and I dun see how hard I can find  a job closer to home.

I only have one goal right now, find a lighter work load job and focus on school so that I can finish CGA as soon as possible. I dun want to stuck at one place forever and at the end, I have nothing to back me up.