peter236

醒下啦PK,呢個政府搞乜都死，醫保，數碼港，中醫藥中心，遊輪港，副學士，乜撚都喎晒。
派6k就最直接，唔撚 ...
MoiRhapsody 發表於 2011-3-3 05:14

you moron, it is because the people themselves are not good enough to do it, not the government.

Lik

For the immediate short term help, the government can provide financial assistance directly to individuals and families that are needed. But not to those who will spend the money on a nice meal, vocation or luxury bags. The money they are going to receive should be spent on helping the poor and needed instead.
rockypath 發表於 2011-3-3 04:15

撚樣，去仆街啦你。

你想靠特衰政府去有些地搞扶貧措施？去搞長遠幫助脫貧嘅政策？我話俾你聽，只要一日無普選，特狗都只係需要向阿爺交代，而並非向人民交代。而無須向人民交代亦即係佢無需要有效地搞好扶貧、脫貧工作。

回歸十幾年來根本就有晒版俾你睇：強積金從討論到落實研究到立法，前後搞咗好多年。而即使搞咗，亦只係一大pat神憎鬼厭嘅臭屎，仲要年年蝕錢、年年俾人罵。綜緩、生果金、交津等等香港又無咩？做咗出來，一樣係做到一pat屎咁，對需要幫助嘅人來講只係好過無，而並非真正咁可以幫助到佢地。

所以都係果句：靠呢個小圈子選出來嘅特衰政府？聽PK啦～

-力

peter236

I wouldn't worry too much about the money going to wealthy individuals and families.

At the core o ...
Lik 發表於 2011-3-3 11:19

When is Canada giving you the cash that poor Canadians all need in fairness?
oops, we forget that Canada is in big debt.

Mr Lik, you are no fuc king economist or financial analyst. Just STFU la.

peter236

屈力力先生最鐘意知少少，扮代表。又鐘意企喺道德高地，指罵別人，不過佢就最下流。
好多post 都係偏激同為 ...
fy789 發表於 2011-3-3 12:35

Mr Lik 條英國仔，自以為事，人又吋,把口又臭。佢自己就係PK仔喇.

mcjohnjohn

I really don't like the idea of giving out the $6000- to anyone over 18.

The money should be given  ...
chobit 發表於 2011-3-3 05:54

小弟極度贊成! (雖然小弟應該會成為冇份收錢既"受害者"都係咁話)

mcjohnjohn

Mr Lik 條英國仔，自以為事，人又吋,把口又臭。佢自己就係PK仔喇.
peter236 發表於 2011-3-4 07:42

好耐冇見Peter 仔打中文了! 呢篇野花左幾多時間打?

rockypath

At the core of the issue here is fairness and equality.
Lik 發表於 2011-3-3 11:19

What a shameless Idiot, Lik.

First, how many people would agree with you that the core of the issue is fairness and equality? Can you tell us what your definition of “fairness” and “equality” is? According to your position, all HK citizens should “eat themselves” regardless they are wealthy or poor. If it is the case, why should we provide financial assistance and public housing to low-income families and seniors? Isn’t it unfair that the government uses the hard-earned money from other citizens and public resources to help those useless people who cannot support themselves? Shouldn’t they take care of themselves for the sake of “equality”?

The core to me is SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY.

Second, do you even know what “opportunity cost” mean before BSing? If the government just deposit the $6000 directly the bank account of those wealthy people, what is the “opportunity cost” for those people? (just want to tell you, your understanding of “opportunity cost” is wrong. Find out what it means before BS again).

Third, just want to tell you, I will collect this $6000 if I am eligible and spend it on a NICE MEAL as suggested by you since it can help out the poor and needed.

Lik

Ha! An attempt to "reason" with me here, huh? That's pretty rare for an idiot like you.

We can go into an endless debate to differentiate the semantic difference between "fairness and equality" and "social responsibility". But at the end of the day, social responsibility is part of the equation in ensuring fairness, but the reverse is not true. What that means is, by claiming that you believe the core issue here is "social responsibility", you are really agreeing with me that the core of the issue here is "fairness and responsibility".

You obviously do not understand why there is an opportunity cost involved in reclaiming the $6k here, so let me educate you right now. There is no telling at this point how the government will issue the $6k rebate. Perhaps it will be directly deposited into people's bank account as you suggest. Perhaps there needs to be an HKID verification process before the funds will be issued. But which account will the money be deposited into? At the very least, the HK citizen need to let the SAR government know. The steps that the person must take, the time that he needs to spend on informing the government, etc. These are his opportunity costs because he could have spend that time on doing something else.

I am certainly not that smart, but know that I am at least smarter than you think, and I am most certainly smarter than you are. Then again, being smarter than you is probably not that hard a thing to achieve since you are pretty much an idiot.

If you were eligible for the $6k, how you spend that money is entirely your choice. But if you do spend it on a nice meal, I'm sure part of the costs would go towards the wages of the poor.

-Lik

rockypath

ut at the end of the day, social responsibility is part of the equation in ensuring fairness, but the reverse is not true. What that means is, by claiming that you believe the core issue here is "social responsibility", you are really agreeing with me that the core of the issue here is "fairness and responsibility".
Lik 發表於 2011-3-3 22:51

First, if you do not understand what I mean, then just ask me and I will explain it again for the sake of you idiot.

Second, tell us what is the relationship between "social responsibility" and "fairness & equality" by your definition?

Third, what is the role of government in the society today? Do you need me to give you hint? If you are smart as you claimed, you should be able to understand what I mean and why I asked this question.

Show us how smart you are.