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原帖由 B仔 於 2009-1-16 16:16 發表

你咁肯定你上天堂?因為你信教?點解咁肯定呢?(我唔係咒你落地獄,唔好誤會LOL)
咁唔通個個整定有罪,要落地獄架喇。。。BUT如果你信神大佬就有唯一嘅出路?似恐嚇感覺bor 咁即係你個教,唔係無條件為"人",係有條件咁收o靚??? ...


thanks for saving my effort of typing

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原帖由 Littleprince 於 2009-1-16 15:55 發表
我又問返你﹐如果當初秦始皇無焚書坑儒﹐如果毛澤東無出世過﹐如果沒有鄧小平﹐呢個世界會點﹖唔係話叫你唔好講如果﹐而係﹐歷史係沒有如果。。。

我們今天有聖誕節﹐復活節﹐有所謂公元前﹐公元後﹐有這麼多改變了的靈魂﹐在在已經證實了耶穌的確出現過響世上。。。就算你不同意﹐看看美麗的花﹐千萬種美麗的魚兒﹐看看這設計精美的宇宙﹐看看我們人類的智慧 (起碼你識問問題﹐識追求生命從何而來﹐往何而去﹐最少你家中養的小貓不會曉得) ﹐你就會明白﹐這世界沒有造物者是沒可能的﹐正如聖經說﹕

“自從造天地以來、 神的永能和神性是明明可知的、雖是眼不能見、但藉著所造之物、就可以曉得、叫人無可推諉. (羅馬書1﹕20)”

當然﹐如果耶穌是主﹐祂是掌管萬有的﹐祂與天父原為一﹐沒有做不到的事﹐又有甚麼可能有你所說的種種原因而出生不了呢﹖


lol
我九成竹星,唔係好識你講個幾位伯伯。。。只知道頭個位係個君主,後兩位俗稱"阿爺"。
hmm...咁佛誕,觀諳節等等(唔係淨指佛教)。。。同耶穌冇乜關係喇掛~

我地永遠唔係小貓小狗,冇可能話佢地唔識問嘅~ 就好似早幾版有人話,人同蒼蠅唔同角度,冇可能一口拗定動物唔識野。

神如果係創造所有,有罪嘅人,天堂,地獄。。。咁講嘅話,乜都你講哂。人就唔洗有思想啦~ 但係,應該唔係咁,因為人有得選擇信或唔信,咁即係唔係神整定架啦???

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原帖由 Littleprince 於 2009-1-16 13:08 發表


你的問題都好好﹐只係響版面好難全面解釋比你聽﹐真有興趣就參加  ALPHA COURSE 吧﹐那兒有專人解答你的問題。真有興趣請 PM我﹐我給你介紹適合的。

你有一點說對了﹐耶穌是無原罪﹐是因為乃童女所生。。。而 TEST ...

Err... I really doubt if what you said/believe is right.
The "original sin" was because Adam & Eve 偷食 "禁果", and this was the actual forbidden apple from the forbidden tree that God told them they should not eat, not the nowadays translation as "扑野" (make love). And the "original sin" could be anything, any "order" from God, such as God could have said Adam & Eve should not pee on the particular flower field but they did so... etc (just an example, the meaning of it is Adam & Eve didn't listen what God told them). Moreover, since then, God said from then on women would suffer pain when giving birth. And that implies that women won't suffer any pain at all when giving birth before the "original sin" has been made; and that pain is kind of punishment to Eve for she tempted Adam to eat the forbidden apple. But of course, since both of them had eaten the apple together, that's how the "original sin" came from and that's why God said all human thereafter has this "original sin" too. (kind of the idea of "the offspring from a pair of sinners are sinful too"). And this is also what many non-believers don't like to accept, it's like why their grand parents were thieves and then they become thieves too, even they didn't do anything bad.

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原帖由 B仔 於 2009-1-16 16:16 發表

你咁肯定你上天堂?因為你信教?點解咁肯定呢?(我唔係咒你落地獄,唔好誤會LOL)
咁唔通個個整定有罪,要落地獄架喇。。。BUT如果你信神大佬就有唯一嘅出路?似恐嚇感覺bor 咁即係你個教,唔係無條件為"人",係有條件咁收o靚??? ...



Of course I am sure la..  and again ..  it is not Heaven vs Hell ..  not going to heaven, not mean will go to "so called" hell ..   

It is just either make the choice to -> A. follow God (that we believe) or B. not follow God.

Period.

So ..  whatever you guys beleive .. if you guy think ..  once died --> ended .. or go to whatever HELL you guys imagine .. ( 18 level Hell?? ) that is ok ..

I guess most importand, I know where am I going if I get into car accident tonite, and died. (so, if u dont see me in loyaukee .. u guys know, I died .. and waiting to be with GOD .. lol)

I am not sure if other christian did 恐嚇 you before .. as I won't ..  

Just like if you are hungry now, there is a piece of Pizza, and a piece of Candy ..  and u pick the candy ..  it is all up to you ... (u may say, na .. I am not going to eat .. )



[ 本帖最後由 Catpiano 於 2009-1-16 17:07 編輯 ]

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原帖由 Catpiano 於 2009-1-16 14:53 發表



You are actually correct! so .. I 整定 will go Heaven ..  however, I can't say who is 整定 not to heaven ...

As peopel here always say " GOD Know! " so .. only GOD know ..  whoever the "God" they ...

整定?! I really surprise you think like that. If so, every single human has been 整定 that they can either go to heaven or hell after death, then why Christians need to spread the gospel and go to church and ask people to believe in God? Since God has planned everyone's future anyways? All Christians can just sit back relax and watch TV at home la.

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原帖由 Catpiano 於 2009-1-16 16:05 發表



Of course I am sure la..  and again ..  it is not Heaven vs Hell ..  not going to heaven, not mean will go to "so called" hell ..   

It is just either make the choice to -> A. follow God (that we  ...

Are you clear for what your believe is?
According to what bible clearly written, either human will go to heaven or hell after death, there is no 3rd option at all. You shouldn't believe in something you don't even know about.

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That is why ..  I always relax at home and watch TV ...  and go loyaukee ...  

well .. it is kind of not easy to explain ..  U can go those the book of James ... It is 整定 .. but we dont know how .. ( hey, we are just human! )

Um ..   just like I know my wife loves me, I know my mom loves me ..   but ..  I dont know how to prove it .. and I can't prove it ..  and I dont even want to prove it ..  but I know it ..  

Other people may also "see/feel" the love from my mom and wife ..  but they can't prove it too ..  and they can't FEEL it .. if they dont spend time to know us well ..  

I am not going to PROVE anything from GOD ..  as it doesn't matter to me ..

He he .. anyway .. it is just me .. not all christian are like that ..  lol I am just a happy guy!  

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原帖由 B仔 於 2009-1-16 13:52 發表
唔好意思Off topic, 但係我無啦啦諗左樣好奇怪的想法。。。(講真的:罪過罪過,有怪莫怪)

如果Adam & Eve 偷食禁果(扑野)咁係罪,咁我諗到點解耶穌冇罪喇!因為佢係神冇扑野而生出嚟嘅!咁係咪test tube babies/invitro-fertiliza ...

I cracked up when I read this...are you serious?  Where did you get that from?

Adam and Eve having sex is sin???  LOL...

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Original sin is a complicated issue which I believe harmed a lot of people.

I urge all Christians to read ALL of this and decide for yourself.
http://www.gospeltruth.net/menbornsinners/mbsindex.htm

Non believers can also read but it may be very difficult for you to understand since most of you don't have the background.

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原帖由 shutterbug 於 2009-1-16 16:55 發表
Original sin is a complicated issue which I believe harmed a lot of people.

I urge all Christians to read ALL of this and decide for yourself.
http://www.gospeltruth.net/menbornsinners/mbsindex.htm

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Since your are a Christian and you should have the related background, just simply tell us what is the original sin?
Was it because Adam & Eve ate the forbidden apple, or because they had sex?

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