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The AH & LA 's  HACCP Management is a much more sophisticated sanitation program
created by NASA  and recognized by food service and hospitality trade all over the world; while the Foodsafe Program is developed in BC and not recognized in Ontario and Maritime
Provinces.
千年百年煙雲外,縈懷的又豈是嬝娜輕愁..縱然碎落滿空星斗,我卻無法拭去記憶中那抹小小的 偶然, 凄酸 啊以及妳 長長睫影下的淚痕

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71# somewhereintime

So once again you chose to repeat your "background" instead of answering my question directly?

You are hopeless. Next time, please answer my question directly. If you want to defend yourself, please defend it like a man, but not to be a coward.

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本帖最後由 somewhereintime 於 2009-12-1 07:53 編輯

I answer queries instead of pointless  accusations.
When did I ever   point finger at any premises without first hand
observation and assessment?  I only said that I do not intend
to try that place, what's wrong with that?
Do something more constructive instead of wasting time here,
i.e. share with us  what are  your accomplishments. I estimate 40-50%
of your posting are  aimed to attacking me, what a waste of your valuable time.
just think why 10 +  LYK members I do  not know would stick up and
defend me while someone keeps  picking on me with no valid point.
Just count what kind of names you have given me:  Devil, Satan in the
Church, Liar,  hopeless, wimp, coward, under-educated..... imagine what
would you feel if you were in the situation.
The fact I never deny is  that I have only Gr 8 education from HK, so it is
reason for getting stab in the back?
If anyone want to insult me,  try at least read carefully what I
have posted. I never have enemy in my life and surely  do not want
to start one.
Please do not waste yet another topic, as you did so many times already,
with the sole purpose  just to defame me. Wanna to be brave, challenge
Goliath instead.
Anyone doubt with what I said in this post, please contact the local health
authority, or surf the web from Foodsafe BC,  Foodsafety.gov,  CFIA
Vancouver Coastal Health Authority, CDC, FoodInspectionweb.ca
Yes it's scary but true.
千年百年煙雲外,縈懷的又豈是嬝娜輕愁..縱然碎落滿空星斗,我卻無法拭去記憶中那抹小小的 偶然, 凄酸 啊以及妳 長長睫影下的淚痕

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I have a local CPHIC  with 25 years experience works under my wings,
so even I do not know anything about Foodsafety Laws, at least
I have the resources.
千年百年煙雲外,縈懷的又豈是嬝娜輕愁..縱然碎落滿空星斗,我卻無法拭去記憶中那抹小小的 偶然, 凄酸 啊以及妳 長長睫影下的淚痕

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62# ACC-HE

Wet bowls and plates tells us :
1. the dish washing machine is not functioning well, the temperature is not up to 82C
2. even worse, they are not using dish washing machine at all, I seen  so many cases, just rinse and re-use
somewhereintime 發表於 2009-11-29 12:26


I had said there is no point to argue on this, but you just pointlessly continue this topic.

Above it the exact quote from you saying the wet tableware the resturant served indicate two possibilities - 1. the washwer malfunciton. 2. they did not use washer to wash the tableware.

I only pointed out you cannot make that kind of assumption just soley based on the wet plates, and there is no need to argue.

If you want to continue and defend yourself, just tell me why you can make those 2 conclusions and not just to repeat your "background" again.

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本帖最後由 somewhereintime 於 2009-12-1 09:47 編輯

I post here to share real facts about Foodsafety that is on official government document.
I  repeated that is what a typical CPHIC would look for and assumes, not me.
they are written on the inspection reports available on Web for the public.
I do not work for Health Authority so I can just say what I studied and observed.
I repeat again, anyone doubt with the statements can go ahead and
get confirmation for the Health Authorities  instead of wasting time mocking here.
Why is that so many restaurants suddenly  closed for staff holiday or renovation
without notice? they've got shut down. Just look up the Foodinspectionweb before
booking reservation for your special events.
千年百年煙雲外,縈懷的又豈是嬝娜輕愁..縱然碎落滿空星斗,我卻無法拭去記憶中那抹小小的 偶然, 凄酸 啊以及妳 長長睫影下的淚痕

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People can make some degree of assumption based on their past experience.  Sometimes you do not need reason at all.

It does not necessary need to be right.  They could make wrong assumption but it is still just an assumption.

Just like me, I sometimes made made false statement here just based on my past experience opening a restaurant.
http://stay.snowinparadise.com

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People can make some degree of assumption based on their past experience.  Sometimes you do not need reason at all.

It does not necessary need to be right.  They could make wrong assumption but it is ...
myversa 發表於 2009-12-1 10:42


Agree with what you said and I had no intentions to argue with him at the first place.

But really don't like his attitude of using his "background" to defend himself.

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Sad to see another thread wasted.
I only replied to ACC-HE
千年百年煙雲外,縈懷的又豈是嬝娜輕愁..縱然碎落滿空星斗,我卻無法拭去記憶中那抹小小的 偶然, 凄酸 啊以及妳 長長睫影下的淚痕

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they're ok, not dirty.

Their bowls plates were quite wet though... which we found weird.

but once you've been served by the waitress, you'll forget everything...
ACC-HE 發表於 2009-11-29 11:49


Actually I found them pretty dirty.  I ordered a hot drink and there was some oily stuff floating on top.  I think it was because the plastic cup that was used to serve the hot drink was not washed properly before.  They have 2 kitchen staff, one working as the chef and the other working as the drink maker.  The drink maker was in and out of the restaurant running errands when I was there. And he never washed his hands before preparing our drinks, and of course he touched our straws and spoons.

The place was small so they don't have a lot of storage.  The have the freezer in the dining room and have junk on the top of the freezer.  The alley to the bathroom was also full of stuff.  It doesn't give me a good feeling at all.  I have to say I won't go back again.

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