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雪呔只係比四季呔好小小,差別唔大,雪呔在溫哥華使用率不高,放起屋企又阻地方,真正大雪用鐵鏈比雪呔更有效.
jh66 發表於 2009-12-6 11:14

老友,你要去死,我唔通阻住你發達咩?

祝你好運啦~

-力

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本帖最後由 jh66 於 2009-12-6 14:25 編輯
老友,你要去死,我唔通阻住你發達咩?

祝你好運啦~

-力
Lik 發表於 2009-12-6 12:56


唔使禁激動,就算係政府宣稱都係話用比較好的四季呔也可以,我因為沒有雪呔更加小心駕駛,最近仲啰左icbc既roadstar.

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毫無疑問,雪肽一定比四季好些,但唔代表一定安全噃!遇到黑冰一樣死。
我有位朋友從來都是行四季,兩年前剛換了雪肽就撞到轆都歪埋。
我又有一位多倫多朋友從來冇裝雪肽,佢又未試過有意外噃!
其實現在一些靚少少的四季肽的雪地及濕地性能都非常好,一些四季品牌的橡膠已做到在零下仍保持柔軟,唔信可以上tirerack睇吓啦。
我自已今年就換了一套exalto及一套Grabber HTS,未落雪唔知掂唔掂,但上個月連場大雨表現就很滿意,高速過水漥非常稳定。
在此提醒用四季肽過冬的老友,請小心檢查你的車肽,如肽纹太淺、用了很久或發現橡膠出現一些頭髮絲一般的裂紋,請快換肽,因為表示贵肽已出現老化變硬跡象。

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唔使禁激動,就算係政府宣稱都係話用比較好的四季呔也可以,我因為沒有雪呔更加小心駕駛,最近仲啰左icbc既roadstar.
jh66 發表於 2009-12-6 14:03


哇~ 勁呀....roadstar 呀, 哇真係勁勁勁呀~~~  roadstar 係無敵架, 渣車永遠唔會炒, 冬天連 black ice 都忌你三分

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本帖最後由 tofu 於 2009-12-6 17:37 編輯

唔使禁激動,就算係政府宣稱都係話用比較好的四季呔也可以,我因為沒有雪呔更加小心駕駛,最近仲啰左icbc既roadstar.
if you never use winter tires, how do you know 雪呔只係比四季呔好小小?  don't tell me you tried your friend's car for 10 mins and you couldn't feel the diff.  of course you won't.  i pay so much money for my car, so i don't mind to pay 個零頭 to get the winter tires to improve my driving experience.  using the winter tires and 更加小心駕駛 is better than using four seasons tires and 更加小心駕駛, right?  we got the winter tires don't mean we are not 更加小心駕駛.  you just be a roadstar means you have 10 years free accident "record", just no record, doesn't has to no accident ar.  so many roadstars here ma.
the one keep saying never use winter tires but never get in accident, more like i never do exercise and eat a lot, but i never get fat.   that may happen, but not in majority la.
btw, you are not allow to use 鐵鏈 in the city,  roadstar, pls improve your road sense.

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唔使禁激動,就算係政府宣稱都係話用比較好的四季呔也可以,我因為沒有雪呔更加小心駕駛,最近仲啰左icbc既roadstar.
jh66 發表於 2009-12-6 14:03

最近仲啰左icbc既roadstar.
lol
人生有個真正朋友的確好極

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簫翠蓮
人生有個真正朋友的確好極

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Here is a very recent (Nov 2009) tire comparison that Car and Driver did:

http://www.caranddriver.com/feat ... es-comparison_tests

C&D's comparison was between 4 Michelin tires:

1) high performance all season
2) all season touring
3) winter performance
4) dedicated winter tire

If you are too lazy to read the entire article, you can skip straight to the hard performance data at the end of each tire review. But don't take the data values too literally just yet, because as purely objective data, they don't take subjective considerations of everyday life into account.

At first glance, the high performance all season and all season touring fell flat on its face the moment there is snow. The dedicated winter tire did almost 20% better than the performance all season in snowy conditions. This was to be expected, and there were no surprises here. And 20% is a significant amount.

On the other hand, it seems like both all season tires did better than the winter tires in the dry and in the wet. So jh66 might very well claim this as rock solid proof that all season tires are more appropriate for Vancouver's weather since we don't get all that much snow. While the hard data doesn't lie, and the dry and wet performance of the all season tires are truly superior to those of the winter tires, we really need to take reality into account as part of our consideration -- that is to say, 1) how much of the performance do we really tap into when we drive on the street, and 2) what conditions do we find ourselves in when we drive?

I ran some tests with my (vehicle) data logger back in October when I still had summer tires mounted on my car. For street driving, my turns generally do not pull any more than 0.3g's worth of lateral acceleration (and really, the norm more or less hovers around a boring 0.2g). Accel- and deceleration can be up to almost 0.4g, but usually they don't exceed the 0.3g mark either. What that means is, in 99% of the time, I never ask my tires to do anything more than 0.4g's worth of work on the streets, and any additional performance beyond that means absolutely nothing since they'll never be tapped into (unless I decide to drive recklessly, of course). Keep this thought in mind when we examine Vancouver's winter road conditions.

Now for the really important bit -- under what conditions are we most prone to accidents in Vancouver's winter? Answer: frosty mornings/evenings and black ice. What this means is, in the moments when you are most likely to get into accidents, your car is driving on morning / evening frost and/or black ice, and you are asking the car to pull 0.3g's worth of acceleration longitudinally or laterally. That means the dry or wet tire performance of 0.8-something g means absolutely nothing, because your all season tire can only muster up 0.24 to 0.28g's worth of acceleration. Since your tires can't offer enough grip, your cars plows or slides, and you get into an accident.

Now, with my Michelin X-Ice 2, the tire can pull a maximum of 0.33g, and the turn only requires 0.3g. Tada~ I have enough grip in my tires, and I drive on happily without getting into an accident.

Honestly, I didn't make up any of the numbers at all. But everything just fall into place, and everything makes perfect sense.

So while all season tires are adequate, why won't you invest into a set of winter tires? It could mean the difference between getting stuck or moving on in some cases, and it could mean the difference between crashing and narrowly avoiding an accident.

-Lik

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just wondering what type of chain would you recommend?

chaining is more effective than winter tire in what sense?
starting/stopping/maneuver in snow/ice/dry pavement???
(sorry that I don't know much about chaining,I got myself winter tires already)


雪呔只係比四季呔好小小,差別唔大,雪呔在溫哥華使用率不高,放起屋企又阻地方,真正大雪用鐵鏈比雪呔更有效.
jh66 發表於 2009-12-6 12:14

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89# yuusaku

I thought it is illegal to chain your tires in city street???
千年百年煙雲外,縈懷的又豈是嬝娜輕愁..縱然碎落滿空星斗,我卻無法拭去記憶中那抹小小的 偶然, 凄酸 啊以及妳 長長睫影下的淚痕

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